Internal energy does or does not depend on volume of molecules?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between internal energy and the volume of gas molecules, particularly in the context of ideal gases. It is established that internal energy is generally independent of volume due to the lack of intermolecular interactions in ideal gases. The confusion arises when considering expansion work, where work done (w) seems to imply a change in internal energy. The key point is that during isothermal processes, heat supplied can equal the work done, leading to a net change in internal energy of zero. Thus, while work and heat are involved, the internal energy remains unaffected by volume changes in ideal gases under specific conditions.
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I am kind of confused by the conflict of the following two concepts.

If I understood correctly, internal energy of a system is independent of the volume occupied by the gas molecules. This is because the gas molecules are assumed to be ideal and therefore have no intermolecular interactions. (Hence volume doesn't matter)

This is proven to be true in adibatic change, where both volume and temperature changes.

If I understood correctly, this adibatic change can be divided into volume change at constant temperature, and temperature change at constant volume.

However, for the change in the internal energy, only the second step matters and hence delta U = Cv (Tf-Ti)

I fail to see how this applies in expansion work. In expansion work, delta U = w + q.

w = Pex x delta V for irreversible expansion

and

w = -nRTln(Vf/Vi) for isothermal reversible expansion.


Well if work is done, then the internal energy must change. So wouldn't this mean that the internal energy is dependent on the volume of the molecules?

(Unless of course the heat supplied by the surroundings is equal to the work done by the system to keep the process isotherma; and these two cancel each other out to give delta U = 0?)

Thanks!
 
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