Adiabatic Process in a heat engine

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a heat engine utilizing a diatomic gas, focusing on an adiabatic process within a pV cycle. Participants are tasked with determining various thermodynamic properties at different points in the cycle, including pressure, volume, temperature, work, and heat transfer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the temperature at point 2 using the Ideal Gas law and the relationship between states, but encounters difficulties with their calculations. They express uncertainty about their approach.
  • Some participants question the accuracy of the provided values and equations, particularly regarding the isothermal process and the constant used for the adiabatic process.
  • Others suggest verifying the calculation of moles at point 1 to ensure consistency in the results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to solve for the unknowns. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations relevant to the adiabatic process, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or values.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for calculations. There are indications of potential typos or misinterpretations in the problem setup that are being discussed.

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Homework Statement


A heat engine uses a diatomic gas that follows the pV cycle shown in Figure.
Part 2→3 is adiabat, part 3→1 is isotherm, V=1040 cm3, P=100 kPa, T1=212 K.

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Determine the pressure at point 2.

Determine the volume at point 2.

Determine the temperature at point 2.

Find Ws for process 1→2.


Find Q for process 1→2.

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Find ∆E for process 1→2.

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Find Ws for process 2→3.

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Find Q for process 2→3.
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Find ∆E for process 2→3.

Find Ws for process 3→1.

Find Q for process 3→1.

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Find ∆E for process 3→1.

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What is the thermal efficiency of this heat engine? (in percent)

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The Attempt at a Solution



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I know how to do the rest if I can find the temperature at point 2. I tried 2 different ways.

1. I tried using the Ideal Gas law PV=nRT and solved for mols at pt 1. Then tried using that for point 2 and then used PV=nRT but that didn't work.

2. Then I tried just simply using PV/T=PV/T and came up with the same answer and they are both wrong.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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this would help out a lot!
 
WHat is the equation i use to find the Work from point 2 to point 3?
 
It looks like there is a typo here. We know pv=constant for an isotherm, yet we have pv=2PV at 1, and pv=PV at 3. I suspect it should be p=0.5P at 3, judging from the scale of the p-axis.

For the adiabat, a useful equation is
pvγ = constant​

(Look up γ[/SUP] for an ideal diatomic gas in your textbook, if you're not sure what it is.)
 
I understand what that symbol means for monatomic its 5/3 and for diatomic its 7/5. But for the W for 2-->3 I tried using the following...

W=nCv(delta T)
n-mols Cv-constant volume Delta T- Change in temp.

W=(.118 mol)(5/2)(8.31)(369.1-212)=138
 
I get a different number of moles than you did, calculated using p, v, and T at point 1. Perhaps you should reproduce that calculation.

I agree with the 369 K temperature at point 3.
 

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