1d kinematics help - ball thrown vertically upwards

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A ball is launched vertically upward with an initial speed of 20 m/s, and the discussion revolves around calculating the time in the air, the maximum height, and the time at which the ball reaches 15 meters. The total time the ball is in the air is approximately 4.1 seconds, and the maximum height reached is about 20 meters. For the time at which the ball is 15 meters above the release point, it is noted that the ball reaches this height twice during its flight. The correct quadratic equation to solve for the times at 15 meters is 4.9t² - 20t + 15 = 0, considering the effects of gravity. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying signs in kinematic equations.
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Homework Statement


A ball is launched vertically upward from ground level with initial speed of 20 m/s.
1. How long is the ball in air?
2. What is the greatest height reached by the ball.
3. How many seconds after launch is the ball 15m above the release point.
(Air resistance is negligible)

The answers from the back of the book are:
1. 4.1 s
2. 20 m
3. 0.99 s and 3.1 s

Homework Equations


Kinematic equations for constant acceleration:
1. vx = v0x + axt
2. vav x = 0.5(v0x + vx)
3. \Deltax = v0xt + 0.5axt2
4. \Deltax = 0.5(v0x + vx)t

The Attempt at a Solution



Part 1
To find how long the ball is in the air - I need to find t (or 2t depending how you look at it)
initial velocity is 20m/s and I am assuming final velocity to be zero.
a is 9.8

So I used equation 1 above:
So 0 = 20 + 9.8t => t=2.0408 (ignoring the sign)
Hence 2t = 4.0816 (the total time ball is in the air)
Is this correct, did the textbook round it up?

Part 2
What is the greatest height reached by the ball?
I use equation 4 above to find delta x:
\Deltax = 0.5(20+0)2.0408
I get 20.408 m
Again is this correct, did the textbook round it up?

Part 3
How many seconds after launch is the ball 15m above the release point?
I am assuming we are given \Deltax as 15m?
I used equations 3 and 4 here but my answer is nowhere close.

Can someone please help me. Thanks in advance
Okay I don't know how to proceed here.
 
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Part one and two look correct.

You're looking for the time when x >= 15m right?

Well looking at equation 3 it's a parabola with x(t) = vt +0.5at^2. Just looking at the graph the ball is at x=15m twice in it's flight, once while it's going up and once on the way back down.

Does this help?
 
Feldoh said:
Part one and two look correct.

You're looking for the time when x >= 15m right?

Well looking at equation 3 it's a parabola with x(t) = vt +0.5at^2. Just looking at the graph the ball is at x=15m twice in it's flight, once while it's going up and once on the way back down.

Does this help?

Thanks for replying.
Yes, the ball would be at 15m twice in flight.
Hence from equation 3 is tried:

4.9t2 + 20t - 15 = 0
The solution is -4.728 and 0.647 none of which make sense to me or are even close to the answer.
 
The required equation is:
4.9t2 - 20t + 15 = 0

because

h = ut - 1/2gt2

since the ball is launched vertically upward g become negative
 
shrrikesh said:
The required equation is:
4.9t2 - 20t + 15 = 0

because

h = ut - 1/2gt2

since the ball is launched vertically upward g become negative

Ahh...Thanks so much.
Stupid signs...
 
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