Wheel and turntable with different angular velocity

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a wheel mounted on a rotating turntable, with specified angular velocities for both the wheel and the turntable. Participants are exploring the angular acceleration of the wheel in relation to its motion and the turntable's rotation.

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  • Participants are analyzing the angular velocity of the wheel and how it is affected by the rotation of the turntable. There are attempts to express the angular velocity as a vector and differentiate it to find angular acceleration. Some participants express confusion regarding the differentiation process and the components of angular velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing expressions for angular velocity and attempting to differentiate them to find angular acceleration. There is a recognition of the need to check signs in the expressions, and some guidance has been offered regarding the vector nature of angular acceleration.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, including the specific angular velocities and the requirement to consider the direction of the axes. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the vector components and the differentiation process.

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The axle of a wheel is mounted on supports that rest on a rotating turntable as shown in Fig. 10-50. The wheel has angular velocity w1 = 50.0 rad/s about its axle, and the turntable has angular velocity of w=35.0 rad/s about a vertical axis. (Note arrows showing these motions in the figure.)

here's the picture: http://www.geocities.com/sinceury/10-50.gif

What is the magnitude and direction of the angular acceleration of the wheel at the instant shown? Take the z axis vertically upward and the direction of the axle at the moment shown to be the x-axis pointing to the right.
 
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The angular velocity of the wheel is

[tex]\omega_{wheel} \left(\cos \omega_{table} t \hat i - \sin \omega_{table} t \hat j \right) + \omega_{"table"} \hat k[/tex]

from which you can find the angular acceleration by differentiating with respect to time. (I didn't check the signs carefully so check them - this will give you a start!)
 
I don't understand...
 
If the table were not turning the angular velocity of the wheel would be a vector with only x and y components. What I did was to take that angular velocity and rotated it as a function of time about the z axis. That's the first part of the expression I wrote. In fact, I chose the rotation rate to be that of the table upon which the wheel sits. (The [itex]\omega[/itex]'s are angular speeds - i.e. not vectors!.)

Imparting a rotation of the wheel about the z axis provides an additional component of the angular velocity of the wheel. That is the second term I wrote.
 
The angular acceleration acceleration is 50(cos35-sin35)...?
 
No. The expression I wrote is the angular velocity. To find the angular acceleration you will need to differentiate with respect to time. Don't forget the angular acceleration is a vector meaning it has both direction and magnitude.
 

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