Calculating Material Properties with Hooke's Law

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mechanical properties of various materials (solid, liquid, plasma) using Hooke's Law of elasticity. Participants explore the applicability of Hooke's Law across different states of matter and seek both formulas and specific property values for their research purposes.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests information on calculating mechanical properties for solids, liquids, and plasmas using Hooke's Law.
  • Another participant questions the relevance of Hooke's Law for fluids, suggesting a distinction between solids and fluids in terms of elasticity.
  • A participant clarifies that Hooke's Law applies to solids in tension and compression until yielding occurs, after which it does not apply if the load continues to increase.
  • There is a discussion about the different relationships between shear and normal forces in fluids and gases compared to solids.
  • One participant expresses the need for both values and formulas for their university assignment on the topic.
  • Resources and documents related to solid mechanics and fluid mechanics are shared, along with suggestions for texts on plasma physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Hooke's Law to fluids versus solids, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation and application of elasticity in different materials.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of elasticity in different states of matter and the specific contexts in which Hooke's Law is applicable. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the interpretation of elasticity for fluids and plasmas.

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i need some information regarding following subject.

Calculating mechanical properties of certain material(solid , Liquid, Plasma) form Hooke's Law of elasticity.

σ = E¹ε + E²ε˙ + E³ε¨

Thanks
 
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Are you sure you want this info for fluids rather than solids ?
 
as i metioned i want the info for solid ,liquid , plasma
 
Are you looking for the data (values) of the properties for specific materials, or the formulas, or both?

Hooke's law simply relates the stress in a material to the elastic strain. In solids, that applies in tension and compression, up the the point where the material yields, i.e. starts to undergo permanent (plastic deformation), at which point Hooke's law does not apply if load continues to increase.

In fluids and gases, elasticity applies under compression and really refers to compressibility.

The relationship between shear and normal pressure/forces in fluids and gases is different than in solids.

Are you trying to develop constitutive models?
 
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Astronuc thanks for your reply.

well i am looking for both values and the formulas. my university porf. have assigned me this research so i should write an article about it.
 
Look at the following documents for some information on solid mechanics.

http://www.ncees.org/exams/study_materials/fe_handbook/fe_mechanics_of_materials.pdf

DOE Fundamentals Handbook, Material Science, Volume 1 of 2 (102 pages)
http://www.eh.doe.gov/techstds/standard/hdbk1017/h1017v1.pdf

The DOE handbook collection is found at:

http://www.eh.doe.gov/techstds/standard/standard.html

Look in the library for books on Fluid Mechanics, and also online -
Fluids
http://www.efunda.com/formulae/fluids/navier_stokes.cfm
http://www.efunda.com/formulae/fluids/bernoulli.cfm

http://www.navier-stokes.net/
http://www.navier-stokes.net/nsfield.htm
http://www.navier-stokes.net/nsbe.htm

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/topics/GeneralFluidMechanics.html
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Navier-StokesEquations.html

For Plasmas, you'll need to find a text on Fusion Engineering or Plasma Physics. Two authors who come to mind are Robert A. Gross, who's book "Fusion Engineering," has a chapter (5) on Tokamak Confinement Physics, and a book by George Miley, "Fusion Energy Conversion".
 
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