Max Allowable Deviation for Projectile Range of 50km

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum allowable deviation from a vertical trajectory for a rocket that reaches a speed of 4.6 km/s and must land within 50 km of its launch site. The formula used is x = (vi^2/g)sin 2Θ, where the user initially misapplies the gravitational constant g as -9.8 m/s², leading to confusion over the resulting negative value. Clarification is provided that g should be treated as a positive magnitude in this context, as the range formula's derivation incorporates a negative sign for the gravitational term in the vertical displacement equation. Ultimately, understanding this distinction resolves the user's frustration with the calculations. The correct interpretation of g is crucial for accurate trajectory analysis.
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Homework Statement



After a short engine firiing, an atmosphere-probing rocket reaches 4.6km/s. If the rocket must land within 50km of its launc site, what's the max allowable deviation from a vertical trajectory.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Given by the book:

x = (vi^2/g)sin 2Θ

50,000m = (vi^2/-9.8)sin 2Θ

sin2Θ = (gx/vi^2) = 0.0232

Again this is really frustrating, I take g = -9.8 and x = 50,000m, vi = 4600m/s
but I get -0.0232.

What is wrong here?
If I use a positive g, I get 0.0232 but that would be rubbish.
 
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negation said:

Homework Statement



After a short engine firiing, an atmosphere-probing rocket reaches 4.6km/s. If the rocket must land within 50km of its launc site, what's the max allowable deviation from a vertical trajectory.

Homework Equations


none


The Attempt at a Solution



Given by the book:

x = (vi^2/g)sin 2Θ

50,000m = (vi^2/-9.8)sin 2Θ

sin2Θ = (gx/vi^2) = 0.0232

Again this is really frustrating, I take g = -9.8 and x = 50,000m, vi = 4600m/s
but I get -0.0232.

What is wrong here?
If I use a positive g, I get 0.0232 but that would be rubbish.

Why would it be "rubbish"?

I suggest you check the derivation of the range formula. That should tell you why ##g## should be taken as a positive number (just the magnitude) here.
 
Curious3141 said:
Why would it be "rubbish"?

I suggest you check the derivation of the range formula. That should tell you why ##g## should be taken as a positive number (just the magnitude) here.

I understand how to derive the equation for the range formula. What I don't understand is that the g in the equation was not specified as a magnitude so why should I be using the magnitude and not the vector g?
 
negation said:
I understand how to derive the equation for the range formula. What I don't understand is that the g in the equation was not specified as a magnitude so why should I be using the magnitude and not the vector g?

So, in the derivation, what is the exact expression for the vertical position at time ##t##?
 
Curious3141 said:
So, in the derivation, what is the exact expression for the vertical position at time ##t##?


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I have understood why g = 9.8 instead of -9.8ms^-2
 
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I have understood why g = 9.8 instead of -9.8ms^-2

Good. It is because the equation for the vertical displacement explicitly includes a negative sign before ##g##, i.e. ##\displaystyle y = v\sin\theta{t} -\frac{1}{2}gt^2##. Hence ##g## here refers to the magnitude only.
 
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