What Is the Equation for a 3-Dimensional Stream Function?

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The discussion centers around the existence and formulation of a 3-dimensional stream function in fluid dynamics. Participants explore the mathematical representation of velocity components in three dimensions and the conditions under which a stream function may be applicable.

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  • One participant inquires about the equation for a 3-dimensional stream function, referencing the 2-dimensional case where velocity components are derived from the stream function.
  • Another participant mentions that while a 3-dimensional stream function is possible, it typically requires two stream functions to replace the continuity equation, as noted in a reference to a book on Computational Fluid Dynamics.
  • Some participants assert that a stream function for three-dimensional flow exists only for axisymmetric flows, where properties in the third direction remain constant, implying that derivatives with respect to that direction are zero.
  • There is a contention that while 3D stream functions may exist physically, they cannot be represented mathematically in general cases.

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Participants express differing views on the existence and mathematical representation of 3-dimensional stream functions, with some agreeing on the limitations to axisymmetric flows while others challenge the general applicability of stream functions in three dimensions.

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The discussion highlights the complexity and specific conditions under which a 3-dimensional stream function may be defined, particularly the reliance on axisymmetry and the limitations of mathematical representation.

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hi

does anyone know the equation for a 3-dimensional stream function?

for a 2 dimensional case, u=d(stream function)/dy and
v=-d(stream function)/dx..


so does anyone knows how to express u, v and w in terms of the stream function for a 3-dimensional case...

thanks.



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stan said:
hi

does anyone know the equation for a 3-dimensional stream function?

for a 2 dimensional case, u=d(stream function)/dy and
v=-d(stream function)/dx..


so does anyone knows how to express u, v and w in terms of the stream function for a 3-dimensional case...

thanks.
stan

I have never seen a tridimensional stream function, although it exists. In words of Anderson in his book of Computational Fluid Dynamics and Heat Transfer:

"For the case of 3-d flows, it is possible to use two stream functions to replace the continuity equation. However, the complexity of this approach usually makes it less atractive than using the continuity equation in its original form".

Try to derivate it using two stream functions.
 
stream function for three dimensional flow also exists but only for axisymmetric flow i.e the flow properties in the third direction(say z axis) is same or in other words the derivative w.r.t (d/dx)that, will be zero.
 
devrana01 said:
stream function for three dimensional flow also exists but only for axisymmetric flow i.e the flow properties in the third direction(say z axis) is same or in other words the derivative w.r.t (d/dx)that, will be zero.

I agree. Stream functions in general do not exist in three dimensions, but only in a special case. Of course 3D stream functions exist physically but can not be represented mathematically.
 

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