Canonical ensemble Definition and 50 Threads
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Second moment of occupation number for bosons
I tried to show this equality by explicitly determining what $$ \overline{(\Delta \eta)^2} $$ is, but I got a totally different answer for some reason, here is my attempt to solve it, what did I miss?- Rayan
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- Bose einstein Bosons Canonical ensemble Statistical mechanics
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Details regarding the high temperature limit of the partition function
My main question here is about how we actually justify, hopefully fairly rigorously, the steps leading towards converting the sum to an integral. My work is below: If we consider the canonical ensemble then, after tracing over the corresponding exponential we get: $$Z = \sum_{n=0}^\infty...- EE18
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- Canonical ensemble Function High temperature Limit Partition Partition function quantum system Temperature
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Canonical ensemble <(Delta E)^3> expression
I try involving differentiating ^2 but I get an expression of different proportionality.- GrandsonOfMagnusCarl
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Expression
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I Concept of Thermal Equilibrium in the Context of Canonical Ensemble
Canonical ensemble can be used to derive probability distribution for the internal energy of the closed system at constant volume ##V## and number of particles ##N## in thermal contact with the reservoir. Also, it is stated that the temperature of both system and reservoir is the same, i.e...- Dario56
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- Canonical ensemble Concept Ensemble Equilibrium Statistical thermodynamics Thermal Thermal equilibrium
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I How Can Internal Energy of the Canonical Ensemble Change (Fluctuate)?
Canonical ensemble is the statistical ensemble which is applicable for the closed system in contact with the reservoir at constant temperature ##T##. Canonical ensemble is characterized by the three fixed variables; number of particles ##N##, volume ##V## and temperature ##T##. What is said is...- Dario56
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- Canonical ensemble Change Energy Ensemble Internal Internal energy Microstates Statistical thermodynamics Thermodynamics
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I Derivation of the Canonical Ensemble
One of the common derivations of the canonical ensemble goes as follows: Assume there is a system of interest in the contact with heat reservoir which together form an isolated system. Heat can be exchanged between the system and reservoir until thermal equilibrium is established and both are...- Dario56
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble Partition function Statistical thermodynamics
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Derivation of Boltzmann Factor via Reservoir Method (canonical ensemble)
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/schwartz/files/7-ensembles.pdf https://mcgreevy.physics.ucsd.edu/s12/lecture-notes/chapter06.pdf On page 3 of both the notes above, the author merely claims that $$P \propto \Omega_{\text{reservoir}}$$ But isn't $$P \propto...- yucheng
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- Boltzmann Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble Method
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I Connecting the microcanonical with the (grand) canonical ensemble
I'm trying to sort out how the microcanonical picture is connected to the canonical and the grand canonical. If I consider a Helium gas, not necessarily with low density, in an isolated container (fixed energy and particle number) I can use the microcanonical ensemble to arrive at the...- Philip Koeck
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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I Help with an ideal gas canonical ensemble partition function integral
Where does the volume even come from? Any help would be appreciated!- AndreasC
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Function Gas Ideal gas Integral Partition Partition function
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A special case of the grand canonical ensemble
In addition to the homework statement and considering only the case where ##U= constant## and ##N = large## : Can we also consider the definition of chemical potential ##\mu## and temperature ##T## as in equations ##(1)## and ##(2)##, and use them in the grand partition function? More...- Ted Ali
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Statisical mechanics Thermodaynamics
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Canonical ensemble and Force on the Walls of a box
Hi everyone, this is my first message after presentation so please be merciful if the notation is somewhat messy. Here's my attempt at a solution: As for points 1) and 2) I used the definition of partition function $$Z = \frac{1}{h^{3N}} \int e^{-\beta \mathcal{H}} d^3p d^3q$$ and the fact that...- Jacques_Leen
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- Box Canonical ensemble Ensemble Force
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I State functions in Grand Canonical Ensemble vs Canonical
Hi all, I am slightly confused with regard to some ideas related to the GCE and CE. Assistance is greatly appreciated. Since the GCE's partition function is different from that of the CE's, are all state variables that are derived from the their respective partition functions still equal in...- WWCY
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Function Functions Partition State
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Pressure in canonical ensemble
Greetings, I am having a hard time in understanding intuitively how pressure does not automatically stay constant in a canonical ensemble (=NVT ensemble). Pressure in a closed system is the average force of particles hitting against the wall of said system. The obvious way to manipulate...- SchroedingersLion
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Pressure
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SM:Parastatistics, grand canonical ensemble function
Homework Statement Hi I am looking at the question attached. Parts c and d, see below Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a SolutionFirst of all showing that ##<N> ## and ##<n_r>## agree I have ##Z=\Pi_r z_r ##, where ##Z## here denotes the grand canonical ensemble. So therefore we have ##...- binbagsss
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Function
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Statistical Mechanics-Limit in canonical ensemble
Homework Statement question attached. My question is just about the size of the limit, how do you know whether to expand out the exponential or not (parts 2) and 4)) Homework Equations for small ##x## we can expand out ##e^{x} ## via taylor series. The Attempt at a Solution Solutions...- binbagsss
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Statistical
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Canonical ensemble of a simplified DNA representation
Question Form the canoncial partition using the following conditions: 2 N-particles long strands can join each other at the i-th particle to form a double helix chain. Otherwise, the i-th particle of each strand can also be left unattached, leaving the chain "open" An "open" link gives the...- zexxa
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- Canonical ensemble Dna Ensemble Representation Statistical mechanics Statistical phyisics
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Partition Function of N particles in an assymetrical box
Homework Statement Consider a gas sufficiently diluted containing N identical molecules of mass m in a box of dimensions Lx, Ly, Lz. Calculate the probability of finding the molecules in any of their quantum states. Calculate the energy of each quantum state εr, as a function of the quantum...- FranciscoSili
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- Box Canonical ensemble Function Microcanonical ensemble Particle in a box Particles Partition Partition function Statisical physics
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Canonical Ensemble Homework: P(ε) & No. of Microstates with Energy (E-ε)
Homework Statement The probability that the system has the energy ε i.e.P(ε). The system could have any energy between 0 and E. So, P(ε) = 1/(no. of possible systems with different energies) I cannot understand how P (ε) is related to the no. of possible microstates the reservior could have...- Pushoam
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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A Negative T for a spin 1 system in the canonical ensemble
I'm interested in an apparent inconsistency with the result for negative temperatures for a spin 1 system of N particles. The partition function of such a system is \begin{equation} Z=(1+2\cosh(\beta \,\epsilon))^{N} \end{equation} where each particle can be in one of three energy states...- Gabriel Maia
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Negative Spin System Thermodinamics
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Energy fluctuations in canonical ensemble
Homework Statement Consider an ensamble of particles that can be only in two states with the difference ##\delta## in energy, and take the ground state energy to be zero. Is it possible to find the particle in the excited state if ##k_BT=\delta/2##, i.e. if the thermal energy is lower than the...- lampCable
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Fluctuations
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Statistical Mechanics -- many copies of a canonical ensemble
Homework Statement Hi I am looking at the attached extract from David Tong's lecure notes on statistical phsyics So we have a canonical ensemble system ##S##, and the idea is that we take ##W>>1## copies of the system ##S##, and the copies of ##W## taken together then can be treated as a... -
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Sound in a gas of non-interacting particles?
Hi. In some statistical approaches (e.g. canonical ensemble), the particles of an ideal gas are non-interacting. Still, it's possible to derive the ideal gas law and other thermodynamic relations. Wikipedia gives an equation for the speed of sound in an ideal gas. How can there be waves in a...- greypilgrim
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- Canonical ensemble Gas Ideal gas Particles Sound Speed of sound Thermal equilibrium
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How can energy vary in the canonical ensemble
I must be missing some point with regards to the canonical Distribution. Let us imagine I have a closed (to energy and matter) box full of ideal gas at temperature T. The total energy in the box equals hence E=3N2kT , where N is the number of molecules, k Boltzmann's connstant.Next, I allow the...- muzialis
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble
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Variation of system energy in Canonical Ensemble
A system is in contact with a reservoir at a specific temperature. The macrostate of the system is specified by the triple (N,V,T) viz., particle number, volume and temperature. The canonical ensemble can be used to analyze the situation. In the canonical ensemble, the system can exchange...- devd
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Internal energy System Variation
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Helmholtz free energy in the canonical ensemble
Hello everybody :D My question is: given the distribution of the canonical ensemble, how do we get the helmoltz free energy? I think we can't use A = U-TS because we don't know how to write S. So what's the solution? Thanks- amedeo_fisi
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Free energy Helmholtz Helmholtz free energy
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Derivation of the Boltzmann distribution (Dr. David Tong)
Hello! Dr. David Tong, in his statistical physics notes, derives the Boltzmann distribution in the following manner. He considers a system (say A) in contact with a heat reservoir (say R) that is at a temperature T. He then writes that the number of microstates of the combined system (A and R)...- soviet1100
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- Boltzmann Boltzmann distribution Canonical ensemble Derivation Distribution
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Grand canonical and canonical ensemble
Suppose that we have a system of particles (I am assuming a general system), and I want to find the ground state energy ##E_0##. We know that we can consider our system by canonical ensemble formalism OR by grand canonical ensemble so that ##H_G=H-\mu N## (in which ##H## is the Hamiltonian in...- mimpim
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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Grand Canonical Ensemble: N operator problem
I have a problem in understanding the quantum operators in grand canonical ensemble. The grand partition function is the trace of the operator: e^{\beta(\mu N-H)} (N is the operator Number of particle) and the trace is taken on the extended phase space: \Gamma_{es}= \Gamma_1 \times \Gamma_2...- Xemnas92
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Operator
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Derivation of fluctuations in canonical ensemble
Homework Statement Statistical Mechanics by Pathria. Problem 3.1 Homework Equations (1) <(△nr)2>=<nr2>-<nr>2=(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)lnΓ, for all wr=1 How to derive above equation from these equations? <nr>=wrd/dwr(lnΓ), for all wr=1 <nr2>=(1/Γ)(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)Γ, for all wr=1 (2) Also, if you...- Fliers
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble Fluctuations
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Entropy of canonical ensemble - invariant wrt energy shift?
I have a short question which I have been discussing with a fellow student and a professor. The question (which is not a homework question!), is as follows: If you shift all the energies E_i \to E_i + E_0 (thus also shifting the mean energy U \to U + E_0), does the entropy of the system remain...- BjarkeTN
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Entropy Invariant Shift
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Free energy changes in a canonical ensemble
I have a question that has puzzled me during the last couple of days. Suppose that there is a system (e.g. a small box filled with gas) that is connected to a heat bath (much larger than the system) at a constant temperature T. The studied system and the heat bath are thought to be isolated from...- errai
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Free energy
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Diatomic Gas, Grand Canonical Ensemble
Homework Statement Part (a): Using grand canonical distribution, show ideal gas law ##P = nkT## holds, where ##n = \frac{\overline{N}}{V}##. Part (b): Find chemical potential of diatomic classical ideal gas in terms of ##P## and ##T##. The rotational levels are excited, but not the...- unscientific
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Gas
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Bose-Einstein condensation in the canonical ensemble
Hello guys, I would really need some help on the following problem. Consider a non-interacting & non-relativistic bosonic field at finite temperature. We are all aware of the fact that such a statistical system is well described by the grand-canonical ensemble in the limit N→∞. However...- JK423
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- Bose-einstein Canonical ensemble Condensation Ensemble
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Canonical ensemble, entropy of a classical gas
Homework Statement I have the equation Z=1/N!h3N∫∫d3qid3pie-βH(q,p) How can I get the entropy from this equation assuming a classical gas of N identical, noninteracting atoms inside a volume V in equilibrium at T where it has an internal degree of freedom with energies 0 and ε What...- hansbahia
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- Canonical ensemble Classical Ensemble Entropy Gas
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Is the Canonical Ensemble Rule Derived Ad Hoc in Statistical Mechanics?
In Statistical Mechanics, the key step in the derivation of the Canonical Ensemble is that the probability of S being in the m-th state, P_m , is proportional to the corresponding number of microstates available to the reservoir when S is in the m-th state. That is P_m=c\Omega(E_0-E_m), where...- intervoxel
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble
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Average Energy of Grand Canonical Ensemble
Hello, The entropy of the Grand Canonical Ensemble (GCE) is: S = KB ln ZG + (\bar{E}/T) - μo\bar{N}/T Helmholtz function is: F = \bar{E} - TS = \bar{E} - TKB ln ZG - \bar{E} + μo\bar{N} = -TKB ln ZG + μo\bar{N} But \partialF/\partialT = -S (From thermodynamics). Then...- phys_student1
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- Average average energy Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble
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Maximizing Gibbs Entropy in Canonical Ensemble
Hey, Here is the problem: The method by which we solve is by Langrange Multipliers, and so I believe I found the derivative of f with respects to P(i) but I have two quantities I'm sure what they equal: Summations over i=1 to N : Ʃln(P(i)) and ƩE(i) Thanks for any help, S- Sekonda
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Entropy Gibbs
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Non-sensical negative entropy? (grand canonical ensemble)
Hello, I was investigating a system with N indistinguishable particles, each of which can have an energy \pm \epsilon, and using the grand canonical ensemble, i.e. \Xi = \sum_{N=0}^{\infty} e^{\beta \mu N} Z_N. But my entropy formula is S = \left( \textrm{a couple of $\sim N $ positive...- nonequilibrium
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Entropy Negative
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Microcanonical vs canonical vs grand canonical ensemble
Can somebody explain to me the differences between the ensembles, and how does this differences refer to experiment? I know that: Microcanonical ensemble is a concept used to describe the thermodynamic properties of an isolated system. Possible states of the system have the same energy and...- gizzmo
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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Closed form expression for the partition function Z using the Canonical Ensemble
Homework Statement I'm looking for a closed form expression for the partition function Z using the Canonical Ensemble Homework Equations epsilon_j - epsilon_j-1 = delta e Z = Sum notation(j=0...N) e^(-beta*j*delta e) beta = 1/(k_B*T) t = (k_B*T)/delta e N is the number of excited...- haitrungdo82
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- Canonical ensemble Closed Ensemble Expression Form Function Partition Partition function
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Can a Super Grand Canonical Ensemble Exist?
Can we take the grand canonical ensemble and then switch the roles of the thermodynamic conjugate variable pair (P, V) making P (pressure) the parameter and V (volume) the variable and allowing it to fluctuate in the system. The macrostate would then be defined by the pressure temperature and...- qbslug
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On the notion of pressure in the canonical ensemble
Hi folks, since the volume V is fixed in a canonical ensemble I'm a bit confused about the fact, that the pressure is calculated as the derivation of the internal energy U with respect to the volume V. Sure, P = dU/dV comes from dU = dQ + dW = tdS - pdV + ... But what does it mean to derivate... -
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Energy Fluctuations in Canonical Ensemble
Homework Statement In deriving <E2>-<E>2 starting from <E>=U=sum(Eiexp(-beta Ei))/sum(exp(-beta Ei). the taking derivative of U with respect to beta, the book always notes E (thus Volume) is held constant. what i am trying to do is taking the derivative of U with respect to beta or T...- chiaki
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Fluctuations
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Canonical Ensemble: Partition Function & Free Energy
Is it true that partition function for canonical ensemble is Z=\sum_{\{states j\}}e^{-\beta E_j}=e^{-\beta F} where F is Helmholtz free energy?- Petar Mali
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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Canonical Ensemble Homework: Equal Probabilities Postulate
Homework Statement In the canonical ensemble, the probability that a system is in state r is given by P_i = \frac{g_i \exp (-\beta E_i)}{\sum_i g_i \exp( -\beta E_i)} where g_i is the multiplicity of state i. This is confusing me because I thought P_i = \frac{g_i}{\sum_i g_i} = states...- ehrenfest
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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How Does the Grand Canonical Ensemble Determine Site Atom Occupancy?
Homework Statement Grand Canonical ensemble problem- A surface of N sites that can have 0,1,2 atoms. It costs no energy to adsorb an atom. Grand canonical problem therefore in contact with particle reservoir. Assume \mu chem potentiol and temp T. What is probability for site to be empty,1,or 2...- j93
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Derivation of Grand Canonical Ensemble from scratch?
I've been studying and thinking about statistical physics for a couple days now... and what bothers me is the grand canonical partition function. Namely that for a system with fixed chemical potential and energy \epsilon_i the probability of having N_i particle in that state is proportional to...- tim_lou
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble scratch
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Please help me to derive canonical ensemble
Hey folks, I really need help setting up a canonical ensemble. I am using the einstein model and have an energy: E_\nu=A + \sum_{i=1}^{2N} \hbar\omega n_i+\sum_{j=1}^{N} \hbarh\omega n_j where A is some constant. Now, I need to build the partition function which I 'think' looks like...- romeo6
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- Canonical ensemble Derive Ensemble
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How to Write a Canonical Ensemble for a System Using the Einstein Model
Hi there, I have a system with the following energy using the einstein model: E_\nu=\sum_{i=1}^{2N} h\omega n_i+\sum_{j=1}^{N} h\omega n_j I need to set up a canonical ensemble for this. How would I write the partition function please?- romeo6
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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When Should You Use the Grand Partition Function in Statistical Mechanics?
I am taking a statictical mechanics course, and one thing bothers me. I am not sure when we should use the normal partition function (Z) and when the grand partition function (twisty Z). In particular, why can we not use grand partition function when we are considering the following system...- secret2
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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