Degenerate perturbation theory Definition and 34 Threads
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I Degenerated perturbation theory
Hello, In the case of Stark effect for example, one may find the correction for the |1s> state easily by applying non degenerated perturbation theory. However in the degenerated case it's seems as though we can only treat the whole n=2 level for example and not individual eigen states. That, I...- Lucas-
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Quantu physics
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I Why is m_j not a good quantum number in strong-field Zeeman effect?
This textbook claims ##m_j## is not a "good" quantum number because the total angular momentum (of an electron of a hydrogen atom placed in a strong uniform magnetic field) is not conserved. I don't understand why ##m_j## is not a "good" quantum number. Since ##J=L+S##, ##J_z=L_z+S_z##. Since...- Happiness
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation theory Quantum mechanics Zeeman effect
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I Doubt in understanding degenerate perturbation theory
McIntyre, quantum mechanics,pg360 Suppose states ##\left|2^{(0)}\right\rangle## and ##\left|3^{(0)}\right\rangle## are degenerate eigenstates of unperturbed Hamiltonian ##H## Author writes: "The first-order perturbation equation we want to solve is ##...- Kashmir
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Doubt Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Diagonalizing q1ˆ3q2ˆ3 with Degenerate Perturbation Theory
I tried to use the degenerated perturbation theory but I'm having problems when it comes to diagonalizing the perturbation q1ˆ3q2ˆ3 which I think I need to find the first order correction.- ThiagoSantos
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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A Degenerate Perturbation Theory: Correction to the eigenstates
Given the unperturbed Hamiltonian ##H^0## and a small perturbating potential V. We have solved the original problem and have gotten a set of eigenvectors and eigenvalues of ##H^0##, and, say, two are degenerate: $$ H^0 \ket a = E^0 \ket a$$ $$ H^0 \ket b = E^0 \ket b$$ Let's make them...- Kaguro
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- Correction Degenerate perturbation theory Eigenstates Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Where Did I Go Wrong in Degenerate Perturbation Theory?
$$ W_{n,n} = \int_0^{2 \pi} \frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-inx} V_0 \cos(x) \frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{inx} dx $$ $$ = 0 $$ $$ W_{n, -n} = \int_0^{2 \pi} \frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-inx} V_0 \cos(x) \frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-inx} dx $$ $$ = \frac{a n ( \sin(4 \pi n) + i \cos( 4 \pi n) - i...- mathsisu97
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- Degeneracy Degenerate perturbation theory Pertubation Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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I Definition of a Degenerate Subspace (QM)
I was learning about Degenerate Perturbation Theory and I encountered the term 'Degenerate Subspace', I didn't really understand what it meant so I came here to ask - what does it mean? will it matter if i'll say 'Degenerate space' instead of 'Degenerate Subspace'? and subspace of what? (...- CGandC
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- Definition Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation theory Qm Quantum mechanics Subspace
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I Degenerate Perturbation Theory
Hello! I am reading Griffiths and I reached the Degenerate Time Independent Perturbation Theory. When calculating the first correction to the energy, he talks about "good" states, which are the orthogonal degenerate states to which the system returns, once the perturbation is gone. I understand...- Silviu
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I Degenerate Perturbation Theory
I'm struggling to understand degenerate perturbation theory. It's clear that in this case the 'normal' approximation method fails completely seeing as you get a divide by zero. I follow the example for a two state system given in e.g D.J Griffiths "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics" However...- bananabandana
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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A Degenerate perturbation theory -- Sakurai
I'm reading section 5.2 "Time-Independent Perturbation Theory: The Degenerate Case" of the book "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai and Napolitano and I have trouble with some parts of the calculations. At firsts he explains that there is a g-dimensional subspace(which he calls D) of...- ShayanJ
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Sakurai Theory
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory and Matrix elements
Homework Statement I did poorly on my exam, which I thought was very fair, and am now trying to understand certain aspects of perturbation theory. There are a total of three, semi related problems which i have questions about. They are mainly qualitative in nature and involve an intuitive...- dwdoyle
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Elements Intuition Matrix Perturbation Perturbation theory Quantum mechahnics Theory
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Nearly free electron model - band gap
For a wavefunction at the Brillouin boundary we have: \langle k|H|k\rangle = \epsilon_0 (\vec k) \langle k'|H|k'\rangle = \epsilon_0 (\vec k+\vec G) \langle k'|H|k\rangle = V_G = \frac{1}{L^3} \int e^{i(\vec k - \vec k') \cdot \vec r} V(r) d\vec r \langle k|H|k'\rangle = V_G^* Using...- unscientific
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- Band Band gap Degenerate perturbation theory Electron Free electron model Gap Model Scattering Semiconductor
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Degenerate perturbation theory for harmonic oscillator
Homework Statement [/B] The isotropic harmonic oscillator in 2 dimensions is described by the Hamiltonian $$\hat H_0 = \sum_i \left\{\frac{\hat{p_i}^2}{ 2m} + \frac{1}{2} m\omega^2 \hat{q_i}^2 \right\} ,$$ for ##i = 1, 2 ## and has energy eigenvalues ##E_n = (n + 1)\hbar \omega \equiv (n_1 +...- CAF123
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Harmonic Harmonic oscillator Oscillator Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Wigner-Eckart theorem in Stark effect
Hi. I'm reviewing some past qualifying exams and stumbled on something i can't figure out, probably because I'm still confused about the Wigner-Eckart theorem.. So, the set-up is just degenerate perturbation theory for constant electric field along z on the n = 2 hydrogen states. That's a...- Goddar
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Stark effect Theorem
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Spin-orbit Interaction & Degenerate Perturbation Theory
Hello! This is my first time posting, so please correct me if I have done anything incorrectly. There's something that I don't understand about the spin-orbit interaction. First of all I know that [\hat{S} \cdot \hat{L}, \hat{L_z}] \ne 0 [\hat{S} \cdot \hat{L}, \hat{S_z}] \ne 0 so this means...- PhysicsKin
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- Atomic Degenerate perturbation theory Interaction Perturbation Perturbation theory Spin-orbit Spin-orbit interaction Theory
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory
Homework Statement We have spin-1 particle in zero magnetic field. Eigenstates and eigenvalue of operator \hat S_z is - \hbar |-1> , 0 |0> and \hbar |+1> . Calculate the first order of splitting which results from the application of a weak magnetic field in the x direction. Homework...- TeddyYeo
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Conmutative Hermitian operator in degenerate perturbation theory
Hi. In 2-fold degenerate perturbation theory we can find appropiate "unperturbate" wavefunctions by looking for simultaneous eigenvectors (with different eigenvalues) of and H° and another Hermitian operator A that conmutes with H° and H'. Suppose we have the eingenvalues of H° are ##E_n =...- carllacan
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Hermitian Hermitian operator Operator Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Sakurai Degenerate Perturbation Theory: projection operators
Hi, So, I am working through section 5.2 of Sakurai's book which is "Time Independent Perturbation Theory: The Degenerate Case", and I see a few equations I'm having some trouble reconciling with probably because of notation. These are equations 5.2.3, 5.2.4, 5.2.5 and 5.2.7. First, we...- maverick280857
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Operators Perturbation Perturbation theory Projection Sakurai Theory
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory: Two Spin 1/2 Particles
So I know this might be a lot to read but I am having a very hard time understanding how to use the formulas in degenerate perturbation theory. Here is the problem I am on. Homework Statement A system of two spin-1/2 particles is described by the following Hamiltonian...- Xyius
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Particles Perturbation Perturbation theory Spin Spin 1/2 Theory
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/qm/lectures/node53.html So I was reading this and I don't understand how he goes from 658 to 661 using the completeness relation. In 661 if you use the completeness relaton can you get rid of the I n,l''>s by doing the outer product and ignoring the...- xdrgnh
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Degenerate perturbation theory (Sakurai's textbook)
In the theory of degenerate perturbation in Sakurai’s textbook, Modern Quantum Mechanics Chapter 5, the perturbed Hamiltonian is H|l\rangle=(H_0 +\lambda V) |l\rangle =E|l\rangle which is written as 0=(E-H_0-\lambda V) |l\rangle (the formula (5.2.2)). By projecting P_1 from the left (P_1=1-P_0...- hokhani
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Textbook Theory
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory (Particle in 3D box)
Homework Statement Consider a particle confined in a cubical box with the sides of length L each. Obtain the general solution to the eigenvalues and the corresponding eigenfunctions. Compute the degeneracy of the first excited state. A perturbation is applied having the form H' = V from 0...- d3nat
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- 3d Box Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Degenerate perturbation theory degeneracy not lifted by perturbation
Hi, I have an equation of the form (-i \lambda \frac{d}{dr}\sigma_z+\Delta(r)\sigma_x) g =(\epsilon + \frac{\mu \hbar^2}{2mr^2}) g where \sigma refers to the Pauli matrices, g is a two component complex vector and the term on the right hand side of the equation is small compared to the other...- tamaghna
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- Degeneracy Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Weak field zeeman effect, why don't we still use degenerate perturbation theory?
the spin orbit coupling removes the degeneracy but not completely, should we still use the degenerate perturbation theory. is it because of relativistic corrections? Thanks!- alemsalem
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Field Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory Weak Zeeman Zeeman effect
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory
Hi I am reading about Degenerate Perburbation Theory, and I have come across a question. We all know that the good quantum numbers in DPT are basically the eigenstates of the conserved quantity under the perburbation. As Griffiths he says in his book: "... look around for some hermitian...- Niles
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory Wavefunction Correction
Hi, If we have a non degenerate solution to a Hamiltonian and we perturb it with a perturbation V, we get the new solution by |\psi_{n}^{(1)}> = \sum \frac{<\psi_{m}^{(0)}|V|\psi_{n}^{(0)}>}{E_n^{(0)} - E_m^{(0)}}\psi_m^{(0)} where we sum over all m such that m\neq n. When we do the same...- McLaren Rulez
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- Correction Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory Wavefunction
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Degenerate perturbation theory help
So in time-independent degenerate perturbation theory we say that we can construct a set of wavefunctions that diagonalize the perturbation Hamiltonian (H') from the degenerate subspaces of the unperturbed Hamiltonian (Ho). Since the original eigenstates are degenerate, combinations of them are...- thoughtgaze
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Degenerate perturbation theory
Homework Statement Hi, i have put the question, my attempt and actual answer in the attached picture. My answer is not quite right; firstly why is the second term a minus lambda, and where does the O(lamdba^2) come from? Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution- sxc656
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Non-degenerate and degenerate perturbation theory
Consider a system of a rigid rotator together with a uniform E-field directing along z-axis. So to calculate the perturbed energy and wavefunction we have to use perturbation theory. But the book said we can use non-degenerate one to calculate the result. I wonder why. It is because the original...- Lucien1011
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Quantum Mechanics: Degenerate Perturbation Theory on square well
Homework Statement Hi I am trying to apply degenerate perturbation theory to a three dimensional square well v= 0 for x, y,z interval 0 to a, perturbed by H' = xyz (product) from 0 to a, otherwise infinite. I need to find the correction to energy of the first excited state which I know is...- Evil Harry
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Mechanics Perturbation Perturbation theory Quantum Quantum mechanics Square Square well Theory
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Griffiths' explanation of degenerate perturbation theory
Hi all. I'm reading about time-independent perturbation theory for degenerate states in Griffiths' Introduction to QM. I have a question on the things he writes in chapter 6.2, page 269. What does he mean by the so-called "good" linear combinations? I hope you can shed some light on...- Niles
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- Degenerate perturbation theory Explanation Griffiths Perturbation Perturbation theory Theory
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Degenerate Perturbation Theory Question
Hello, This is a question on perturbation theory - which I am trying to apply to the following example. Homework Statement The two-dimensional infinitely deep square well (with sides at x=0,a; y=0,a) is perturbed by the potential V(x)=\alpha(x^{2}+y^{2}). What is the first-order correction...- T-7
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Degenerate perturbation theory question
This's a question from Griffiths, about degenerate pertrubation theory: For \alpha=0, \beta=1 for instance, eq. 6.23 doesn't tell anything at all! What does it mean "determined up to normalization"?. Equations 6.21 and 6.23 involve 3 unknowns (\alpha, \beta, E^1), and Griffiths solved them...- gulsen
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Degenerate perturbation theory question
Can anybody explain what Griffiths means when he talks about "good eigenstates" in degenerate time-independent purturbation theory? Mathematically, I know he is just talking about the eigen-vectors of the W matrix (where Wij = <pis_i|H'|psi_j>). But what do the eigen-vectors physically...- mattlorig
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