Groups Definition and 867 Threads

  1. PsychonautQQ

    Does a Factor Group Element's Order Imply the Same Order in the Original Group?

    Homework Statement Let G be a finite group and let K be normal to G. If the factor group G/K has an element of order n, show that G has an element of order n. Homework Equations None The Attempt at a Solution Lets say Kg is the element in G/K with order n. That means: (Kg)^n = K and...
  2. PsychonautQQ

    Factor Groups: What am I thinking about wrongly here?

    say K is normal in G hence we have a factor group G/K. let g be an element of G where |g| = n. so Kg^n = K since g^n = 1. and using the properties of factor groups, we know Kg^n = (Kg)^n hence (Kg)^n = K So we know that the order of Kg divides n. Is this correct thinking? Factor groups are...
  3. Kushwoho44

    Fluid Mechanics: Dimensionless Groups Question, explain an outlier

    Homework Statement Hi guys, I need to explain the outlier point here, which has been shaded in the excel spread sheet when comparing the two dimensionless groups, The dimenionsless group, drag-coefficient is given by Drag/(density*V^2*D^2) and dimensionelss group, spin parameter, is given by...
  4. B

    Proving that the Dihedral Groups are non-cylic

    Hello everyone, I am suppose to show that all the Dihedral groups (##D_n##, for ##n >2##) are noncyclic. I know that every cyclic group must be abelian. So, what I intended on showing was that at least two elements in ##D_n## are not commutative. Here are my thoughts: Because we are dealing...
  5. N

    Explaining Electroweak Theory Decomposition to a Beginner

    I have come across physicists representing electroweak theory as some kind of decomposition (i.e. U(1)xSU(2)). I was wondering if someone could explain this 'crossing' to me a little further. Fair warning, my understanding of group/gauge theory is v rudimentary at this point.
  6. B

    What am I missing?What is the Proof for Cyclic Groups Being Subgroups?

    Hello everyone, I am trying to understand the proof given in this link: https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Subgroup_of_Cyclic_Group_is_Cyclic I understand everything up until the part where they conclude that ##r## must be ##0##. Their justification for this is, that ##m## is the smallest integer...
  7. B

    Hopf Algebras in Quantum Groups

    In the theory of quantum groups Hopf algebras arise via the Fourier transform: "A third point of view is that Hopf algebras are the next simplest category after Abelian groups admitting Fourier transform" At least for nice functions, a Fourier series is just a Laurent series on a circle (which...
  8. J

    Groups of homomorphisms of abelian groups

    Hello everybody! I've just started with studying group homorphisms and tensor products, so i am still not very sure if i undertstand the subject correct. I am stuck with a question and i would ask you for some help or hints how to proceed... What i have to do is to describe...
  9. W

    Homology Functor, Prod. Spaces, Chain Groups: Refs Needed

    Hi all, Went to a seminar today, arrived a few minutes late; hope someone can tell me something about this topic and/or give a ref so that I can read on it . I know this is a lot of material; if you can refer me to at least some if, I would appreciate it : 1)Basically, understanding how/why the...
  10. PsychonautQQ

    Modern Algebra Factor Groups question

    Homework Statement If K is normal in G and |g| = n for some g in G, show that the order of Kg in G/K divides n. Homework Equations None The Attempt at a Solution Okay so I feel like I have a solution but I don't use all the information given so I'm trying to find holes in it... g^n = 1...
  11. topsquark

    MHB Generalizing Rigid Motions Group w/ Metric

    Define: Euc(n) = \{ T \in End( \mathbb{R}^n )| ~ ||Tx - Ty|| = ||x - y||~\forall x,y \in \mathbb{R}^n \} This is defined as the Euclidean group of rigid motions. Can we generalize this group to be defined with any metric (well actually inner product, I suppose)? Obviously it won't be...
  12. Math Amateur

    MHB Help Peter Prove Simple Proposition on Simple Groups & Maximal Normal Subgroups

    I need help with the proof of an apparently simple Proposition in Aigli Papantonopoulou's book: Algebra: Pure and Applied. The proposition in question is Proposition 5.2.3 and reads as follows:Can someone please help me and provide an explicit and formal proof of this proposition.Since...
  13. M

    MHB Verifying Sentences about Groups: Answers and Hints

    Hey! :o I have to determine whether the following sentences are correct or not. Any two groups with three elements are isomorphic. At any cyclic group, each element is a generator. Each cyclic group has at least one non trivial proper subgroup. The group $G=\{ 1, i, -1, -i \}$ with respect...
  14. Math Amateur

    MHB Factor Groups and Simple Groups - Fraleigh: Theorem 15.18

    I need some help with the proof of Theorem 15.18 in Fraleigh: A First Course in Abstract Algebra. The text of Theorem 15.18 reads as follows: In the above text we read: " ... ... Now $$\gamma^{-1}$$ of any non-trivial proper normal subgroup of $$G/M$$ is a proper normal subgroup of $$G$$...
  15. metapuff

    Are All Indecomposable Groups Cyclic?

    A group is said to be indecomposable if it cannot be written as a product of smaller groups. An example of this is any group of prime order p, which is isomorphic to the group of integers modulo p (with addition as the group operation). Since the integers modulo p is a cyclic group (generated by...
  16. Math Amateur

    MHB Second Isomorphism Theorem for Groups

    I am revising the Isomorphism Theorems for Groups in order to better understand the Isomorphism Theorems for Modules. I need some help in understanding Dummit and Foote's proof of the Second Isomorphism Theorems for Groups (Diamond Isomorphism Theorem ? why Diamond ?). The relevant text from...
  17. O

    Find US HEP Research Groups | Best Experimental High Energy Physics

    Where to go to study experimental high energy physics in the US? What are the best groups working on experiment HEP to join with?
  18. A

    Complete List of 230 Space Groups in CSV Format for Easy Access

    Does anyone know of anywhere on the internet where I may find a spreadsheet containing the names of the 230 space groups? In a perfect world this would simply be a csv file containing the schoenflies and hermann-maguin notations; but I can't be too picky. Thanks
  19. D

    Changing undergraduate lab groups?

    I'm currently working in a very reputable lab and am wondering if it would be wise to switch to a smaller lab if the opportunity were to arise. The reason I am considering this is because in my current lab I do mostly programming and some 3d modelling. Whereas perhaps in a smaller lab I...
  20. K

    What are the algebra prerequisites for Lie groups?

    I don't know if this is the correct section for this thread. Anyway, I'm taking a graduate course in General Relavity using Straumann's textbook. I skimmed through the pages to see his derivation of the Schwarzschild metric and it assumes knowledge of Lie groups. I've never had an abstract...
  21. C

    Is there any groups working on FF's like CTEQ on PDF's?

    I know some groups on PDF's like CTEQ, MSTW, NNPDF... Is there any groups working on the parameterization of fragmentation functions, and publish any codes that can be called?
  22. C

    Experiments and groups about the parameterization of PDFs & FFs

    I want to do a survey about the parameterization of PDFs & FFs, and make a summary (say, in tables and figure) about the experiments and groups working on it, and their results. Where can I found these materials? Regards!
  23. PcumP_Ravenclaw

    Please verify a problem on Groups and permutations

    Alan F beardon, Algebra and Geometry chapter 1 6. For any two sets A and B the symmetric difference AΔB of A and B is the set of elements in exactly one of A and B; thus AΔB = {x ∈ A ∪ B : x / ∈ A ∩ B} = (A ∪ B)\(A ∩ B) . Let be a non-empty set and let G be the set of subsets of (note that G...
  24. M

    Beginning Group Theory, wondering if subset of nat numbers are groups?

    I know this post is in the topology thread of this forum, for group theory, this seemed like the reasonable choice to post it in. I realize group theory is of great importance in physics and I'm trying to eventually understand Emmy Noether's theorem. I'm learning group theory on my own, and...
  25. H

    Are Lie Groups with Identical Lie Algebras Always Homomorphic?

    Hello I've been reading some Group theory texts and would like to clarify something. Let's say we have two Lie groups A and B, with corresponding Lie algebras a and b. Does the fact that a and b share the same Lie Bracket structure, as in if we can find a map M:a->b which obeys...
  26. Math Amateur

    MHB Modules - Decomposibiity of abelian groups

    I am reading An Introduction to Rings and Modules With K-Theory in View by A.J. Berrick and M.E. Keating (B&K). I need help with understanding Example 2.1.3 (ii) (page 39) which concerns $$L$$ as a submodule of the quotient module $$ \mathbb{Z}/p^r \mathbb{Z}$$ ... ... Example 2.1.3 (ii) (page...
  27. PsychonautQQ

    Understanding the Cyclic Property of Groups

    Homework Statement My online notes stated that it |g| = |G| where g is an element of G then |G| is cyclic. Can somebody help me understand why this is true?
  28. C

    How Is the Killing Metric Normalized for Compact Simple Groups?

    The killing form can be defined as the two-form ##K(X,Y) = \text{Tr} ad(X) \circ ad(Y)## and it has matrix components ##K_{ab} = c^{c}_{\ \ ad} c^{d}_{\ \ bc}##. I have often seen it stated that for a compact simple group we can normalize this metric by ##K_{ab} = k \delta_{ab}## for some...
  29. Deveno

    MHB The Universal Property of the Direct Product in Groups

    With groups, one often seeks to create larger groups out of smaller groups, or the reverse: break down large groups into easier-to-understand pieces. One construction often employed in this regard is the direct product. The normal way this is done is like so: The direct product of two groups...
  30. J

    Proving o(An) = o(a) for Finite Abelian Groups | G, N, a | Group Theory Homework

    Homework Statement Let G be a finite group with N , normal subgroup of G, and a, an element in G. Prove that if (a) intersect N = (e), then o(An) = o(a). Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution (aN)^(o(a)) = a^(o(a)) * N = eN = N, but is the least power such that (aN)^m = N...
  31. G

    Computing Čech cohomology groups

    I'm trying to understand Čech cohomology and for this I'm looking at the example of ##S^1## defined as ##[0,1]/\sim## with ##0 \sim 1##. To compute everything, I have the cover ##\mathcal U## consisting of the sets $$U_0= (0, 2/3) \, , \, U_1= (1/3, 1) \, , \, U_2= (2/3, 1] \cup [0, 1/3)$$...
  32. D

    Certain number of people arranged in several groups

    Homework Statement Find the number of ways of 9 people can be divided into two groups of 6 people and 3 people. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution my working is there are 6! arrangement for 6 people and 3! arrangment for 3 people. then the group of 3 people can be...
  33. L

    Isomorphic Groups: Proving Theorem True?

    Two groups are isomorphic if they has same number of elements and if they has same number of elements of same order? Is it true? Where can I find the prove of this theorem?
  34. Math Amateur

    MHB How Does Theorem 2.68 Explain Finitely Generated Groups in Algebra?

    I am reading Chapter 2: Commutative Rings in Joseph Rotman's book, Advanced Modern Algebra (Second Edition). I am currently focussed on Theorem 2.68 [page 117] concerning finitely generated groups I need help to the proof of this theorem. Theorem 2.68 and its proof read as follows:In the...
  35. bigfooted

    Any recommendations for a good self-study book on Galois groups?

    I want to get a decent introduction into group theory and Galois groups. Can somebody recommend a good book that I can use for self-study? The book of Stewart - Galois Theory looks promising.
  36. Math Amateur

    MHB Groups as Groupoids with One Object

    I am reading Paolo Aluffi's book: "Algebra: Chapter 0" I am currently focussed on Chapter 2: "Groups: First Encounter". On page 41, Aluffi defines a group as follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Definition: A group is a groupoid with a...
  37. R

    What are the SU groups? I.e SU(2), SU(3)?

    I'm revising for my introductory particle physics exam and I've noticed SU(3) pop up a few times, it was never really explained and I don't really understand what it means. For example when talking about the conservation law of Colour, it says the symmetry is phase invariance under SU(3)...
  38. P

    Galois Theory, Differential Equations, and Lie Groups?

    I apologize for the informal and un-rigourous question. I have heard, in passing, that doing Galois Theory over Lie Groups instead of discrete groups is connected to solutions of differential equations instead of algebraic equations. First of all, is this correct? If so, what is this...
  39. W

    Tensors of Free Groups and Abelian groups

    Hi, let S be any set and let ##Z\{S\}## be the free group on ##S##, i.e., ##Z\{S\}## is the collection of all functions of finite support on ##S##. I am trying to show that for an Abelian group ##G## , we have that : ## \mathbb Z\{S\}\otimes G \sim |S|G = \bigoplus_{ s \in S} G ##, i.e., the...
  40. Mandelbroth

    Why Are Homology Groups Not MUCH Larger?

    So far, I think algebraic topology is turning out to be the best thing since sliced bread. However, I'm having a bit of difficulty with homology, for one particular reason. Consider, as an example, the first homology group of ##S^1##. The definition of the free abelian group (or, in general...
  41. B

    Why do several Lie groups have the same Lie algebra when acting on a space?

    Why is it that several lie groups can have the same Lie algebra? could it have to do with the space where they act transitively? Could two different Lie groups acting transitively on the same space have the same Lie algebra?
  42. O

    MHB How can I find the kernel of a homomorphism of finite groups?

    i was given that Z8 to Z4 is given by f= 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 where f is homomorphism. how can i find the kernal K
  43. S

    MHB How Do You List Elements of G/H in Z10 When H={α,β,δ}?

    someone had a post on finite quotient groups. i understood that but how does one list elements of G/H if H is a subgroup of G. where: G=Z10 H={α,β,δ}
  44. B

    Homogeneous spacetime - Lie groups

    All Bianchi type spacetimes have metrics that admits a 3-dimensional killing algebra. They are in general not isotropic. Bianchi type IX have a killing algebra that is isomorphic to SO(3), i.e. the rotation group. But what does it mean? If the fourdimensional spacetime is invariant under the...
  45. O

    MHB Understanding Finite Quotient Groups: G/H with G=Z6 and H=(0,3)

    G is a group and H is a normal subgroup of G. where G=Z6 and H=(0,3) i was told to list the elements of G/H I had: H= H+0={0,3} H+1={14} H+2={2,5} now they are saying H+3 is the same as H+0, how so?
  46. T

    Multiplication Table of C3V and P3 Symmetry Groups

    Can one set up a multiplication table for the symmetry group C3V of the equilateral triangle. Then show that it is identical to that of the permutation group P3. I need some clarification... What about a matrix representation (2x2) for these groups? → Here was thinking to use...
  47. Math Amateur

    Homology Groups of the Klein Bottle

    I am reading James Munkres' book, Elements of Algebraic Topology. Theorem 6.3 on page 37 concerns the homology groups of the Klein Bottle. Theorem 6.3 demonstrates that the homology groups for the Klein Bottle are as follows: H_1 (S) = \mathbb{Z} \oplus \mathbb{Z}/2 and H_2 (S) = 0 I...
  48. Math Amateur

    Why Must Any 2-Cycle of the 2D Torus Be of the Form pγ?

    I am reading James Munkres' book, Elements of Algebraic Topology. Theorem 6.2 on page 35 concerns the homology groups of the 2-dimensional torus. Munkres shows that H_1 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z} \oplus \mathbb{Z} and H_2 (T) \simeq \mathbb{Z} . After some work I now (just!) follow the...
  49. C

    Fundamental groups and arcwise connected spaces.

    If a space X is arcwise connected, then for any two points p and q in X the fundamental groups ##\pi_1(X,p)## and ##\pi_1(X,q)## are isomorphic. This means that we can, up to isomorphisms, identify both groups with their equivalence class ##\pi_1(X)##. I started to think about the generality...
  50. Whovian

    A detail in a proof about isomorphism classes of groups of order 21

    Homework Statement While reading through my textbook on abstract algebra while studying for a test, I ran across the following statement: There are two isomorphism classes of groups of order 21: the class of ##C_{21}##, and the class of a group ##G## generated by two elements ##x## and...
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