Groups Definition and 867 Threads

  1. M

    MHB Quotient Groups & how to interpret notation?

    Hello, I am having some trouble truly interpreting what certain notation means when defining quotient groups, etc. (My deepest apologies in advance, with my college workload I simply have not had the time to really sit down and master latex.) Here are a few random examples I've seen in...
  2. mnb96

    How Is the Abelianization of a Lie Group Defined?

    Hi, the abelianization of a group G is given by the quotient G/[G,G], where [G,G] is the commutator subgroup of G. When dealing with finite groups, the commutator subgroup is given by the (normal) subgroup generated by all the commutators of G. If we consider instead the case of G being a Lie...
  3. Konte

    Symmetry groups of molecule - Hamiltonian

    Hello everybody, As I mentioned in the title, it is about molecular symmetry and its Hamiltonian. My question is simple: For any molecule that belong to a precise point symmetry group. Is the Hamiltonian of this molecule commute with all the symmetry element of its point symmetry group...
  4. E

    Number of ways to arrange n numbers in k groups

    Hello, I was given a question (not a HW question..) in which i was asked to calculate the number of ways to sort n numbers into k groups, where for any two groups, the elements of one group are all smaller or larger than the elements of the other group. The answer is supposed to be...
  5. Borek

    Sorting by moving groups of numbers

    It all starts with a shuffling. We have a sorted list, we take out groups of numbers and we insert them in random positions: Then, it is about sorting the numbers back using the same approach, in a minimum numbers of steps (which doesn't have to be identical to a number of steps taken during...
  6. W

    How many ways can you arrange 52 things into 4 groups BUT th

    How many ways can you arrange 52 things into 4 groups BUT the groups do not have to be the same size?!?
  7. A

    Why do we care about spin groups?

    Hey, guys! I was recently reading (attempting) about spin groups. I heard a little bit about SO(3), but still don't know much. I was wondering if someone could explain what a spin group is and why it is useful? Is there some way to visualize spin groups? Please note: I know literally nothing...
  8. nuuskur

    Algebra: Non-isomorphic groups

    Homework Statement How many non-isomorphic groups of two elements are there? Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution I don't understand exactly what we are being asked. If we have a group of two elements under, say, addition, then G =\{0, g\}. Then also g+g = 0 must be true, means g is its...
  9. F

    Are All Gauge Groups in the Standard Model Semisimple for a Physical Reason?

    Is there a physical reason why all gauge groups considered in SM and especially beyond are always semisimple? [+ U(1)] What would happen if they were solvable?
  10. chikou24i

    What is the relationship between C1h and C1v point groups in crystallography?

    How to draw the symettry axis for 1-fold rotation ? And why C1v is identical to C1h ? Thanks
  11. Math Amateur

    MHB Unlock Role of Correspondence Thm for Groups in Analysing Composition Series

    I have made two posts recently concerning the composition series of groups and have received considerable help from Euge and Deveno regarding this topic ... in particular, Euge and Deveno have pointed out the role of the Correspondence Theorem for Groups (Lattice Isomorphism Theorem for Groups)...
  12. DeldotB

    A few questions about a ring of polynomials over a field K

    Homework Statement Consider the ring of polynomails in two variables over a field K: R=K[x,y] a)Show the elements x and y are relatively prime b) Show that it is not possible to write 1=p(x,y)x+q(x,y)y with p,q \in R c) Show R is not a principle ideal domain Homework Equations None The...
  13. Math Amateur

    MHB Jordan-Holder Theorem for Groups .... Aluffi, Theorem 3.2

    I am reading Paolo Aluffi's book, Algebra: Chapter 0 ... I am currently focused on Chapter 4, Section 3: Composition Series and Solvability ... I need help with an aspect of Aluffi's proof of the Jordan-Holder Theorem (Theorem 3.2, page 206) which reads as follows: Theorem 3.2 and the early...
  14. Math Amateur

    MHB What is Aluffi's notation for composition series in Algebra: Chapter 0?

    I am reading Paolo Aluffi's book, Algebra: Chapter 0 ... I am currently focused on Chapter 4, Section 3: Composition Series and Solvability ... I need help with Exercise 3.3 on page 213, which reads as follows: I hope someone can help ... and in so doing use Aluffi's notation ... So that MHB...
  15. DeldotB

    Showing two groups are *Not* isomorphic

    Homework Statement Good day, I need to show: \mathbb{Z}_{4}\oplus \mathbb{Z}_{4} is not isomorphic to \mathbb{Z}_{4}\oplus \mathbb{Z}_{2}\oplus \mathbb{Z}_{2} Homework Equations None The Attempt at a Solution I was given the hint that to look at the elements of order 4 in a group. I know...
  16. J

    Converse of Lagrange's Theorem for groups

    I know of only one group, ##A_4## of order 12 which does not have a subgroup with order dividing the group size. In this case, a subgroup of size ##6##. What property of a group causes this? Would I expect to find other examples only in non-abelian groups or are there abelian groups which do...
  17. J

    How to find generators of symmetric groups

    Hi, I was wondering how to find a minimal set of generators for the symmetric groups. Would it be difficult to fill-in the following table? ##\begin{array}{cl} S_3&=\big<(1\;2),(2\;3)\big> \\ S_4&=\big<(1\;2\;3\;4),(1\;2\;4\;3)\big>\\ \vdots\\ S_{500} \end{array} ## Is there a procedure to...
  18. J

    Examples of infinite nonabelian groups not GL_n(G)?

    Hi, I was trying to identify some infinite non-abelian groups other than ##GL_n(G)## and also other than contrived groups such as the group: ##G=\big<r,s : r^2=s^3=1\big>## as per...
  19. P

    What is the relationship between dynamical symmetry and Noether's theorem?

    Hi, I am learning classical mechanics right now, Particularly Noether's theorem. What I understood was that those kinds of transformations under which the the Hamiltonian framework remains unchanged, were the key to finding constants of motion. But here are my Questions: 1. What is...
  20. Math Amateur

    MHB Correspondence Theorem for Groups - Yet Another Question

    I am reading Joseph J. Rotman's book: A First Course in Abstract Algebra with Applications (Third Edition) ... I am currently revising Section 2.6 Quotient Groups in order to understand rings better ...[FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman]I have another question regarding the proof of...
  21. Math Amateur

    MHB Arithmetic for Quotient Groups - How exaclty does it work

    I have just received some help from Euge regarding the proof of part of the Correspondence Theorem (Lattice Isomorphism Theorem) for groups ... But Euge has made me realize that I do not understand quotient groups well enough ... here is the issue coming from Euge's post ... We are to consider...
  22. Math Amateur

    MHB Correspondence Theorem for Groups - Rotman, Proposition

    I am reading Joseph J. Rotman's book: A First Course in Abstract Algebra with Applications (Third Edition) ... I am currently revising Section 2.6 Quotient Groups in order to understand rings better ... [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman]I need help with understanding the proof of...
  23. D

    Finite field with hard discrete log for both groups

    If there a finite field where both group structures have hard discrete logs? Discrete log in the additive group means multiplicative inverse.
  24. L

    MHB What is the Rank of the Direct Sum of Torsion-free Groups?

    If someone can check this, it would be appreciated. (Maybe it can submitted for a POTW afterwards.) Thank-you. PROBLEM Prove that if $H$ and $K$ are torsion-free groups of finite rank $m$ and $n$ respectively, then $G = H \oplus K$ is of rank $m + n$. SOLUTION Let $h_1, ..., h_m$ and $k_1...
  25. B

    Algebra Good book on representation theory of groups

    Hi I am a physics graduate student. Recently I am learning representation theory of groups. I understand the basic concepts. But I need a good book with lots of examples in it and also exercise problems on representation theory so that I can brush up my knowledge.The text we follow is "Lie...
  26. P

    Algorithm for creating unique groups of elements

    Homework Statement so for a side task I'm supposed to assign people to groups for an icebreaker in python, can anyone give me links to theories that I could read up on or give me suggestion X number of people at my company signed up for a dinner roulette as a way to meet new people. Everyone...
  27. Q

    Normal subgroups of a product of simple groups

    Homework Statement Let G = G1 × G2 be the direct product of two simple groups. Prove that every normal subgroup of G is isomorphic to G, G1, G2, or the trivial subgroup. The Attempt at a Solution I tried proving that the normal subgroups would have to be of the form Normal subgroup X Normal...
  28. Avatrin

    Subgroups of Symmetric and Dihedral groups

    I am having problem working with the objects in the title. Working with permutations, rotations and reflections is fine, but I have problem with the following: Showing a subgroup is or is not normal (usually worse in the case of symmetric groups) Finding a subgroup of order n. Showing that...
  29. K

    MHB Basis Theorem for Finite Abelian Groups

    I am attempting to answer the attached question. I have completed parts 1-4 and am struggling with part 5. 5. Prove that if a^{l_0}b_1^{l_1}...b_n^{l_n}=e then a^{l_0}=b_1^{l_1}=...=b_n^{l_n}=e If |a|>|b1|>|b2|>...>|bn| then I could raise both sides of a^{l_0}b_1^{l_1}...b_n^{l_n}=e to the...
  30. S

    Meaning of representations of groups in different dimensions

    Problem This is a conceptual problem from my self-study. I'm trying to learn the basics of group theory but this business of representations is a problem. I want to know how to interpret representations of a group in different dimensions. Relevant Example Take SO(3) for example; it's the...
  31. B

    Can the Set R(G) be Proven as a Ring in Convolution on Groups?

    Let ##G## be a group and let ##R## be the set of reals. Consider the set ## R(G) = \{ f : G \rightarrow R \, | f(a) \neq 0 ## for finitely many ## a \in G \} ##. For ## f, g \in R(G) ##, define ## (f+g)(a) = f(a) + g(a) ## and ## (f * g)(a) = \sum_{b \in G} f(b)g(b^{-1}a) ##. Prove that ##...
  32. J

    Two quotient groups implying Cartesian product?

    Assume that G is some group with two normal subgroups H_1 and H_2. Assuming that the group is additive, we also assume that H_1\cap H_2=\{0\}, H_1=G/H_2 and H_2=G/H_1 hold. The question is that is G=H_1\times H_2 the only possibility (up to an isomorphism) now?
  33. T

    Proof: τ^2=σ for Odd k-Cycle σ in Symmetric Groups

    If σ is a k-cycle with k odd, prove that there is a cycle τ such that τ^2=σ. I know that every cycle in Sn is the product of disjoint cycles as well as the product of transpositions; however, I'm not sure if using these facts would help me with this proof. Could anyone point me in the right...
  34. c3po

    Find matrix representation for rotating/reflecting hexagon

    Homework Statement Consider the set of operations in the plane that includes rotations by an angle about the origin and reflections about an axis through the origin. Find a matrix representation in terms of 2x2 matrices of the group of transformations (rotations plus reflections) that leaves...
  35. I

    Is the scalar multiplication of (R>0)^n over Q associative?

    ∴Homework Statement Let ℝ>0 together with multiplication denote the reals greater than zero, be an abelian group. let (R>0)^n denote the n-fold Cartesian product of R>0 with itself. furthermore, let a ∈ Q and b ∈ (ℝ>0)^n we put a⊗b = (b_1)^a + (b_2)^a + ... + (b_n)^a show that the abelian...
  36. Math Amateur

    MHB Issue 2 - Tapp - Characterizations of the Orthogonal Groups

    I am reading Kristopher Tapp's book: Matrix Groups for Undergraduates. I am currently focussed on and studying Section 2 in Chapter 3, namely: "2. Several Characterizations of the Orthogonal Groups". I need help in fully understanding the proof of Proposition 3.10. Section 2 in Ch. 3...
  37. Math Amateur

    MHB Characterizations of the Orthogonal Groups _ Tapp, Ch. 3, Section 2

    I am reading Kristopher Tapp's book: Matrix Groups for Undergraduates. I am currently focussed on and studying Section 2 in Chapter 3, namely: "2. Several Characterizations of the Orthogonal Groups". I need help in fully understanding some important remarks following Proposition 3.10...
  38. I

    Is ℝ^2 with Custom Scalar Multiplication a Vector Space?

    Homework Statement The set ℝ^2 with vector addiction forms an abelian group. a ∈ ℝ, x = \binom{p}{q} we put: a ⊗ x = \binom{ap}{0} ∈ ℝ^2; this defines scalar multiplication ℝ × ℝ^2 → ℝ^2 (p, x) → (p ⊗ x) of the field ℝ on ℝ^2. Determine which of the axioms defining a...
  39. Math Amateur

    MHB Search for Senior Undergraduate Text on Lie Theory and Groups

    I am looking for a good text at senior undergraduate level on Lie Theory, and in particular, Lie Groups ... Does anyone have any suggestions? Peter
  40. T

    What distinguishes the 32 crystallographic point groups?

    Hello, some weeks ago I was having a first look at the world of crystals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_system Now I forgot the bit that I've understood but before trying to study the topic again I would like to ask an other simple question: " What makes the 32 crystallographic point...
  41. F

    Power for a mean difference of two independent groups

    Homework Statement "The Daily Planet ran a recent story about Kryptonite poisoning in the water supply after a recent event in Metropolis. Their usual field reporter, Clark Kent, called in sick and so Lois Lane reported the stories. Researchers plan to sample 288 individuals from Metropolis...
  42. W

    Groups of Order 16 with 4-Torsion, Up to Isomorphism

    Hi, I am trying to find all groups G of order 16 so that for every y in G, we have y+y+y+y=0. My thought is using the structure theorem for finitely-generated PIDs. So I can find 3: ## \mathbb Z_4 \times \mathbb Z_4##, ## \mathbb Z_4 \times \mathbb Z_2 \times \mathbb Z_2 ## , and: ##...
  43. Greg Bernhardt

    Challenge 25: Finite Abelian Groups

    What is the smallest positive integer n such that there are exactly 3 nonisomorphic Abelian group of order n
  44. Fallen Angel

    MHB Finite Group Inverses: Proving $N_{ABC}=N_{CBA}$

    Hi, I bring a new algebraic challenge ;) Let $G$ be a finite group and $U,V,W\subset G$ arbitrary subsets of $G$. We will denote $N_{UVW}$ the number of triples $(x,y,z)\in U\times V \times W$ such that $xyz$ is the unity of $G$, say $e$. Now suppose we have three pairwise disjoint sets...
  45. M

    MHB Direct sum of free abelian groups

    Show the direct sum of a family of free abelian groups is a free abelian group. My first thought was to just say that since each group is free abelian we know it has a non empty basis. Then we can take the direct sum of the basis to be the basis of the direct sum of a family of free abelian...
  46. TrickyDicky

    Are There Spaces That Are Their Own Automorphisms Group?

    Is there any example of an automorphisms group of a space that coincides with the space, i.e. a space that is its own automorphisms group?
  47. H

    Can a One-Sided Identity Element in Groups Lead to Two-Sided Identity?

    Hi I'm taking a math course at university that covers introductory group theory. The textbook's definition of the identity element of a group defines it as two sided; that is, they say that a group ##G## must have an element ##e## such that for all ##a \in G##, ##e \cdot a = a = a \cdot e## ...
  48. nomadreid

    The advantage of modular arithmetic, e.g. cyclic groups?

    In starting to look into the mathematical side of encryption , I note the heavy dependence upon modular arithmetic. What is the advantage is this? For example, why are finite cyclic groups and rings preferable? Note: I know zilch about programming; I am approaching it from the mathematical side.
  49. B

    Is the Direct Product of Two Finite Cyclic Groups Cyclic

    Hello everyone, I was wondering if the following claim is true: Let ##G_1## and ##G_2## be finite cyclic groups with generators ##g_1## and ##g_2##, respectively. The group formed by the direct product ##G_1 \times G_2## is cyclic and its generator is ##(g_1,g_2)##. I am not certain that it...
  50. JonnyMaddox

    Lie Groups, Lie Algebra and Vectorfields

    Hi I'm learning about Lie Groups to understand gauge theory (in the principal bundle context) and I'm having trouble with some concepts. Now let a and g be elements of a Lie group G, the left translation L_{a}: G \rightarrow G of g by a are defined by : L_{a}g=ag which induces a map L_{a*}...
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