Partial derivatives Definition and 417 Threads
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A Treating Velocity as Independent of position till the end in Lagrangian Mechanics
Why do we treat velocity and coordinates as independent variables until the very end, where we then assume the dependence of velocity on coordinates via a time derivative? That is, let the Lagrangian of a given system be simply $$\mathcal L=\frac12mv^2$$ Now, plugging this into the...- LightPhoton
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- Classical mechanics Lagrangian mechanics Partial derivatives Phase space
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I Chain Rule (partial derivatives): basic interpretation question
The proof for the above ubiquitous formula (as in the summary) in "Chain rule for one independent variable" at the beginning of...- nomadreid
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- Chain rule Intuition Partial derivatives
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Find the constrained maxima and minima of ##f(x,y,z)=x+y^2+2z##
The interest is on number ##4##, In my working, ##f(x,y,z) = x+y^2+2z## and ##g(x,y,z) = 4x^2+9y^2-36z^2 = 36## ##f_x = 1, f_y=2y## and ##f_z = 2## and also ## g_x = 8λx, g_y = 18λy## and ##g_z = -72λz## using ##\nabla f (x,y,z) = λ\nabla f (x,y,z)## i shall have, ##1 = 8λx ## ##2y =...- chwala
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- Minima Partial derivatives
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I Trouble with metric. Holonomic basis and the normalised basis
##df=\frac {\partial f}{\partial r} dr+\frac {\partial f}{\partial \theta}d\theta\quad \nabla f=\frac{\partial f}{\partial r}\vec{e_r} +\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta }\vec{e_\theta }## On the other hand ## g_{rr}=1\:g_{r\theta}=0\:g_{\theta r}=0\;g_{\theta\theta}=r^2\;##So...- GR191511
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- Differential geometry Partial derivatives Vector analysis
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Can anyone please verify/confirm these derivatives?
Note that ## \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}=\frac{2x}{2\sqrt{x^2+y'^2}}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+y'^2}}, \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}=0, \frac{\partial F}{\partial y'}=\frac{2y'}{2\sqrt{x^2+y'^2}}=\frac{y'}{\sqrt{x^2+y'^2}} ##. Now we have ## \frac{dF}{dx}=\frac{\partial F}{\partial x}+\frac{\partial...- Math100
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- Calculus Derivatives Partial derivatives
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I Integration of ##e^{-x^2}## with respect to ##x##
My first point of reference is: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/154968/is-there-really-no-way-to-integrate-e-x2 I have really taken time to understand how they arrived at ##dx dy=dA=r dθ dr## wow! I had earlier on gone round circles! ...i now get it that one is supposed to use partial... -
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I Can Operators Have Multiple Partial Derivatives in Quantum Mechanics?
Suppose Q=2x+t and x=t2, then ∂Q/∂t=1. But Q can also be written as Q=x+t2+t, then ∂Q/∂t=2t+1. We now have 2 different answers. But I think there can only be one correct answer. In reference to the equation in the image, no matter we write Q=2x+t or Q=x+t2+t, <Q> should be the same, so the LHS...- Happiness
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- Operators Partial derivatives Quantum physics
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I Partial derivatives of the function f(x,y)
Hello, Given a function like ##z= 3x^2 +2y##, the partial derivative of z w.r.t. x is equal to: $$\frac {\partial z}{\partial x} = 6x$$ Let's consider the point ##(3,2)##. If we sat on top of the point ##(3,2)## and looked straight in the positive x-direction, the slope The slope would be... -
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Correct Usage of Partial Derivative Symbols in PDEs
Some may say that ##\frac{ \partial g }{ \partial t }## is correct because it is a term in a partial differential equation, but since ##g## is a one variable function with ##t## only, I think ##\frac{ dg }{ dt }## is correct according to the original usage of the derivative and partial...- nizi
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- Derivative Partial Partial derivative Partial derivatives Partial differential equations Pdes Symbols
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I Lacking intuition with partial derivatives
Hello everyone, I seem to be majorly lacking in regards to intuition with partial derivatives. I was studying the Euler-Lagrange equations and realized that my normal intuition with derivatives seems to lead me to contradictory or non sensical interpretations when reading partial derivatives...- Chenkel
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- Derivatives Intuition Partial Partial derivatives
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Not understanding these manipulations involving Partial Derivatives
Can someone please help me to find out what happened here ?- MatinSAR
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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What is the relationship between entropy and pressure in thermodynamics?
Hi, Starting from dS in term of H and P, I'm trying to find ##(\frac{\partial H}{\partial P})_t## in term of ##P,V,T, \beta, \kappa, c_p##. Here what I did so far. ##ds = (\frac{\partial S}{\partial H})_p dH + (\frac{\partial S}{ \partial P})_H dP## ##ds = (\frac{\partial S}{\partial H})_p [...- happyparticle
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- Coefficient Joule Partial derivatives Thermodynamic Thomson
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I Carroll GR: Tangent Space & Partial Derivatives
He draws an n-manifold M, a coordinate chart φ : M → Rn, a curve γ : R → M, and a function f : M → R, and wants to specify ##\frac d {d\lambda}## in terms of ##\partial_\mu##. ##\lambda## is the parameter along ##\gamma##, and ##x^\mu## the co-ordinates in ##\text{R}^n##. His first equality is...- chartery
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- Carroll Derivatives Gr Partial Partial derivatives Space Tangent tangent space
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A Try to swap between mean and partial derivatives on a product
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- Chi-squared Covariance matrix Derivatives Fisher information Gaussian distribution Maximum likelihood Mean Partial Partial derivatives Product
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Understanding the Chain Rule in Multivariable Calculus
But, If I use chain rule than, I get that. ##\vec v_i = \frac{dr_i}{dt}=\sum_k \frac{\partial r_i}{\partial q_k} \cdot \frac{\partial q_k}{\partial t}## But, they found that?- Istiak
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- Calculus Chain Chain rule Partial derivatives
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Directional derivatives vs Partial derivatives
Good day I just want to confirm if a function f(x,y) who has directional derivatives has automatically partial derivatives (even though the function itself is not necessarly differentiable)? Can we consider that partial derivatives are special cases of directional derivatives? Thank you in advance!- Amaelle
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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Partial derivatives of enthelpy and Maxwell relations
I've attached images showing my progress. I have used Maxwell relations and the definitions of ##\alpha##, ##\kappa## and ##c##, but I don't know how to continue. Can you help me?- Like Tony Stark
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- Derivatives Maxwell Maxwell relations Partial Partial derivatives Relations Susceptibility
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Relating the entropy of an ideal gas with partial derivatives
It looks very easy at first glance. However, the variable S is a variable in the given expression. I have no clue to relate the partial derivatives to entropy and the number of particles.- Mayan Fung
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- Derivatives Entropy Gas Ideal gas Partial Partial derivatives Themodynamics
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Minimization problem using partial derivatives
a) ONLY The common way to solve this problem is minimizing the two-variable equation after using the substitution ##z^2=1/(xy)##. Yet I wondered if it is possible to optimize the distance equation with three varibles. So I wrote the following equations: Distance: $$f(x,y,z)=s^2=x^2+y^2+z^2$$...- Leo Liu
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- Derivatives Minimization Partial Partial derivatives
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Verifying Chain Rule for Partial Derivatives
I have no answer or solution to this. So I'm trying to seek a confirmation of whether this is correct or not: ##df = \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx + \frac{\partial f}{\partial t}dt ## ##\frac{df}{dt} = \frac{\partial f}{\partial x} \dot x + \frac{\partial f}{\partial t} ## Therefore, ##...- Kaguro
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- Chain Chain rule Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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Can we take the partial derivatives of φ and ψ here?
I research about coordinate systems and I found the following informations about transformation. Now, if I replace arctan (x/y) (according to the picture above) to φ, I think I can solve. But if I can do this, then what will be replaced to ψ? I mean, I know just taking partial derative about...- requied
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivative Partial derivatives
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Insights How to Solve Second-Order Partial Derivatives
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Partial derivatives of thermodynamic state functions
I'm in a first-year grad course on statistical mechanics and something about multivariable functions that has confused me since undergrad keeps popping up, mostly in the context of thermodynamics. Any insight would be much appreciated! This is a general question, but as an example imagine...- physlosopher
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- Derivatives Functions Partial Partial derivatives State Thermodynamic
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I Why Does dV Equal ∂V/∂x(dx) + ∂V/∂y(dy)?
So in my lecture notes on Differential Equations, it states that a first order ODE is exact if A(x,y)dx + B(x,y)dy = 0 and ∂A/∂y = ∂B/∂x. Okay I accept this definition. Then, there is a sentence like this: Our goal is to find the function V(x,y) satisfying Adx + Bdy = dV = ∂V/∂x(dx) +... -
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Expanding Brackets with Partial Derivatives
Hi, I just need some (hopefully) quick calculus help. I have the following: ##(y\frac {\partial } {\partial z}(z\frac{\partial f} {\partial x}))## After it is expanded this is the solution: ##(yz\frac {\partial^2 f} {\partial z \partial x} + y\frac{\partial f} {\partial x} \frac{\partial z}...- Zero1010
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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I Question about a partial derivative
I apologise for the length of this question. It is probably possible to answer it by reading the first few lines. I fear I have made a childish error: I am working on the geodesic equation for the surface of a sphere. While doing so I come across the partial derivative \begin{align}...- George Keeling
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- Derivative Geodesic Partial Partial derivative Partial derivatives Sphere
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I What if the Jacobian doesn't exist at finite points in domain of integral?
Consider a one to one transformation of a ##3##-##D## volume from variable ##(x,y,z)## to ##(t,u,v)##: ##\iiint_V dx\ dy\ dz=\int_{v_1}^{v_2}\int_{u_1}^{u_2}\int_{t_1}^{t_2} \dfrac{\partial(x,y,z)}{\partial(t,u,v)} dt\ du\ dv## ##(1)## Now for a particular three dimensional volume, is it... -
How can I solve for these partial derivatives given a set of variables
I am given the following: $$u = (x,t)$$ $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial t^2} - c^2\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} = 0$$ and $$E = x + ct$$ $$n = x - ct$$ I need to solve for $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2}$$ and $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial t^2}$$ using the chain rule.How would I even...- Boltzman Oscillation
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives Set Variables
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How shall we show that this limit exists?
Let: ##\displaystyle f=\int_{V'} \dfrac{x-x'}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|^3}\ dV'## where ##V'## is a finite volume in space ##\mathbf{r}=(x,y,z)## are coordinates of all space ##\mathbf{r'}=(x',y',z')## are coordinates of ##V'## ##|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|=[(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+(z-z')^2]^{1/2}##...- Mike400
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- Calculus Limit Limits Multivariable calculus Partial derivatives Volume integrals
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Thermodynamics: Partial derivatives
Hi all, I have had the following question in my head for quite a while: Thermodynamic potentials written in differential form look like $$dU = TdS - PdV$$ and we can obtain equations for say, temperature by doing the following partial $$T = \frac {\partial U}{\partial S} |_V$$ Does this mean...- WWCY
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives Thermodynamics
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A Second order partial derivatives vanish?
At the end of a long proof I came across something in tensor calculus that seems too good to be true. And if something seems too good to be true ... The something is that a second order partial derivative vanishes if one of the parts in the denominator is in the same reference frame as the...- George Keeling
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives Reference frames Second order Tensor calculus
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I Do partial derivatives commute in general?
Suppose we have to deal with the question : $$\frac{\partial}{\partial x}\frac{\partial}{\partial y}=?\frac{\partial}{\partial y}\frac{\partial}{\partial x}$$ This seems true for independent variables. But if at the end x and y are linked in some way like $$x=f(t),y=g(t)$$ this is no more the...- jk22
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- Commute Derivatives General Partial Partial derivatives
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I How to transform this into partial derivatives? (Arfken)
Hello. Glad to meet you, everyone I am studying the [Mathematical Methods for Physicists; A Comprehensive Guide (7th ed.) - George B. Arfken, Hans J. Weber, Frank E. Harris] In Divergence of Vector Field, I do not understand that How to transform the equation in left side into that in right...- physicophysiology
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives Transform
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I Differentiability of a function of two variables
I have been studying multivariable calculus but I can't quite think visually how a function will be differentiable at a point. How can a function be differentiable if its partial derivatives are not continuous?- Jazzyrohan
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- Differentiability Function Partial derivatives Variables
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I Dimensional analysis involving partial derivatives
It is mentioned in Reif's book, statistical physics, that trough dimensional analysis it can be shown that: $$\frac{1}{\beta} = kT $$ where ##\beta## equals ##\frac{\partial \ln \Omega}{\partial E}## and k is the Boltzmann constant. I don't quite see how to reach this result, can anyone give me...- Wledig
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- Analysis Derivatives Dimensional analysis Partial Partial derivatives Statistical physics
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A Integrating partial derivatives in a field equation
I am integrating the below: \begin{equation} \psi(r,v)=\int \left( \frac{\frac{\partial M(r,v)}{\partial r}}{r-2M(r,v)}\right)dr \end{equation} I am trying to write ψ in terms of M. Please, any assistance will be appreciated.- Samson Ogaga Ojako
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- Derivatives Field Partial Partial derivatives
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Solving Partial Differential Equations with Substitution
Homework Statement Hello I am given the equation: ut - 2uxx = u I was given other equations (boundary, eigenvalue equations) but i don't think I need that to solve this first part: The book says to get rid of the zeroth order term by substituting u = exp(t)V(x,t). I tried to but I can't find...- Boltzman Oscillation
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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A Partial Differentiation in Lagrange's Equations
In Section 7.6 - Equivalence of Lagrange's and Newton's Equations in the Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems book by Thornton and Marion, pages 255 and 256, introduces the following transformation from the xi-coordinates to the generalized coordinates qj in Equation (7.99): My...- sams
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- Classical mechanics Differentiation Lagrange Partial Partial derivatives Partial differentiation
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I Partial derivatives in thermodynamics
So, I'm now studying thermodynamics and our teacher proved some time ago the following mathematical result: If f(x,y,z)=0, then (∂x/∂y)z=1/(∂y/∂x)z But today he used this relation for a function of four variables. Does this result still hold, because I'm not really sure how to prove it. If...- anachin6000
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- Derivatives Multivariable calculus Partial Partial derivatives Thermodyamics Thermodynamics
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MHB Level Curves and Partial Derivatives
Hello everyone, I am trying to solve this wee problem regarding partial derivatives, and not sure how to do so. The following image shows level curves of some function \[z=f(x,y)\] : I need to determine whether the following partial derivatives are positive or negative at the point P... -
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Is my math okay for gradient descent
I am trying to minimize the function below, ##R##, to find the optimum ##K##, ##V_d##, and ##V_m##. Currently I minimize ##V_d## and ##V_m## with gradient descent, and find the best K through a binary search, but, if possible, I would like to get rid of binary search and use only gradient...- fahraynk
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- Gradient Partial derivatives
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MHB Directional and Partial Derivatives ....Notation .... D&K ....
I am reading "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by J. J. Duistermaat and J. A. C. Kolk ... I am focused on Chapter 2: Differentiation ... ... I need help with an aspect of D&K's notation for directional and partial derivatives ... ... D&K's definition of directional and...- Math Amateur
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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I Directional and Partial Derivatives ....Notation .... D&K ...
I am reading "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by J. J. Duistermaat and J. A. C. Kolk ... I am focused on Chapter 2: Differentiation ... ... I need help with an aspect of D&K's notation for directional and partial derivatives ... ... D&K's definition of directional and...- Math Amateur
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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MHB Help with D&K Proposition 2.3.2: Directional & Partial Derivatives
I am reading "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by J. J. Duistermaat and J. A. C. Kolk ... I am focused on Chapter 2: Differentiation ... ... I need help with another aspect of the proof of Proposition 2.3.2 ... ... Duistermaat and Kolk's Proposition 2.3.2 and its proof read...- Math Amateur
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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I Directional and Partial Derivatives .... Another Question ....
I am reading "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by J. J. Duistermaat and J. A. C. Kolk ... I am focused on Chapter 2: Differentiation ... ... I need help with another aspect of the proof of Proposition 2.3.2 ... ... Duistermaat and Kolk's Proposition 2.3.2 and its proof read...- Math Amateur
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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MHB Multivariable Analysis .... Directional and Partial Derivatives .... D&K Propostion 2.3.3 ....
I am reading "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by J. J. Duistermaat and J. A. C. Kolk ... I am focused on Chapter 2: Differentiation ... ... I need help with an aspect of the proof of Proposition 2.3.2 ... ... Duistermaat and Kolk's Proposition 2.3.2 and its proof read as...- Math Amateur
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- Analysis Derivatives Multivariable Partial Partial derivatives
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I Multivariable Analysis .... Directional & Partial Derivatives
I am reading "Multidimensional Real Analysis I: Differentiation" by J. J. Duistermaat and J. A. C. Kolk ... I am focused on Chapter 2: Differentiation ... ... I need help with an aspect of the proof of Proposition 2.3.2 ... ... Duistermaat and Kolk's Proposition 2.3.2 and its proof read as...- Math Amateur
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- Analysis Derivatives Multivariable Partial Partial derivatives
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I Existence of Partial Derivatives and Continuity ....
I am reading the book "Several Real Variables" by Shmuel Kantorovitz ... ... I am currently focused on Chapter 2: Derivation ... ... I need help with another element of the proof of Kantorovitz's Proposition on pages 61-62 ... Kantorovitz's Proposition on pages 61-62 reads as follows: In the...- Math Amateur
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- Continuity Derivatives Existence Partial Partial derivatives
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I Directional & Partial Derivatives .... working from the definition
I am reading the book "Several Real Variables" by Shmuel Kantorovitz ... ... I am currently focused on Chapter 2: Derivation ... ... I need help with an element of the proof of Kantorovitz's Proposition on pages 61-62 ... Kantorovitz's Proposition on pages 61-62 reads as follows: I am...- Math Amateur
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- Definition Derivatives Partial Partial derivatives
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Partial derivatives and thermodynamics
Hi all. Suppose I have the ideal gas law $$P=\frac{RT}{v}$$If I'm asked about the partial derivative of P with respect to molar energy ##u##, I may think "derivative of P keeping other quantities (whatever those are) constant", so from the formula above I get $$\frac{\partial P}{\partial...- voila
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- Derivatives Partial Partial derivative Partial derivatives Thermodyamics Thermodynamics
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- Forum: Thermodynamics