quotient Definition and 341 Threads

  1. E

    Simplifying after applying quotient rule

    Homework Statement http://images.calcchat.com/solutionart/etf5e/03/c/se03c01047.png Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution What am i missing, because i get: 6/4 [(-1 + tanx*secx- (tanx)^2]
  2. F

    Is the Quotient Space of Identifying Rational Numbers Compact and Hausdorff?

    Let X be the quotient space obtained of \mathbb{R} identifiying every rational number to a point. Is X a Hausdorff space? Is X a compact space?
  3. A

    What Does \(\pi^{-1}(\pi(V))\) Mean in Quotient Spaces?

    If X is a topological vector space and Y is a subspace, we can define the quotient space X/Y as the set of all cosets x + Y of elements of X. There is an associated mapping \pi, called the quotient map, defined by \pi(x) = x + Y. If I'm not mistaken, there is an equivalence relation lurking...
  4. nukeman

    How Do You Solve the Difference Quotient for f(x) = 4 + 3x - x^2?

    Homework Statement I am having trouble with a couple difference quotient questions. Here is a question I can't seem to solve. Evaluate the difference quotient for the given funtion and simplify your answer. f(x) = 4 + 3x - x^2 , f(3 + h) - f(3) / h Homework Equations...
  5. C

    Double derivative of a quotient

    Find d^2y/dx^2 when dy/dx = (3x^2 - 24x - 45) ÷ 2y i tried by (6x-24) ÷ 2y. Unsure what to do about the y on the denominator.
  6. J

    Arithmetic Question for Finding Derivative using Quotient Rule

    Homework Statement Find dy/dx for the following function: y = (11-cos(x))/(2+cos(x)) Homework Equations Quotient Rule: y'= ((g(x))(f'(x)) - (f(x))(g'(x)))/ (g(x)^2) The Attempt at a Solution I used the quotient rule to come up with this: y'= ((2+cos(x))(sin(x)) -...
  7. K

    What's the motivation for coset and quotient structure?

    I'm curious why people develop these objects. Although I've seen some proofs of theorems using coset(or quotient space somtimes), it remains mysterious to me how people come up with these in the first palce. So what's the motivation for inventing coset or quotient space, logical and historical?
  8. H

    Proving Normality of a Quotient Group: A Shortcut Method

    I have a question I need to resolve before my exam on thursday. It relates to the following result: Let N be a normal subgroup of G, and let K be any subgroup of G containing N. Then K/N is a subgroup of G/N. Furthermore, K/N is normal in G/N if and only if K is normal in G. The first part...
  9. D

    Differentiation of a Quotient check

    Homework Statement S = (8x^2 - 7x + 125)/(8x+7) Where the value of x is unknown The Attempt at a Solution u = 8x^2 - 7x + 125 du/dx = 16x - 7 v = 8x + 7 dv/dx = 8 ds/dx = (v*du/dx - u*dv/dx)/v^2 = (8x+7*16x-7 -...
  10. J

    Calculus: Composite and Quotient rules. HELP

    Homework Statement Remember to show your working explicitly throughout your answer to this question. (a) (i) Use the Composite Rule to differentiate the function f(x) = (x^2− 6x + 23)^(3/2) (ii) Use the Quotient Rule and your answer to part (a)(i) to show that the function: g(x) = (x −...
  11. E

    Product Rule vs. Quotient Rule: A Common Mistake in Differentiating Equations

    When differentiating the following equation, y=\frac{d}{dx}\frac{e^x}{x}, why is it wrong to rearrange the equation to y=\frac{d}{dx}\frac{1}{x}e^x and apply the product rule? Doing so gives me a different result than using the chain rule in conjunction with the quotient rule. Sorry about...
  12. Y

    A question regarding quotient space

    Does quotient space V/N include N itself? I think it does because: V/N includes all the cosets of N, and a coset of N is defined as N+\alpha={\epsilon+\alpha: \epsilon \in N}. This definition is from Advanced Calculus by Loomis & Sternberg and it does not say \alpha cannot be 0. So V/N...
  13. F

    How is the quotient of two constants calculated in a given equation?

    Homework Statement Part of a larger problem. I know that F_{1}^2+2F_{1}F_{2}-F_{2}^2=0 where F_{1} and F_{2} are x and y components of a force. Hence \frac{F_{1}}{F_{2}}=1\pm\sqrt{2} I can't see how that step is done. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution...
  14. G

    Quotient Ring of a Polynomial Ring

    Hi, given a polynomial ring R=\mathbb{C}[x_1,\ldots,x_n] and an ideal I=\langle f_1, f_2 \rangle, \quad f_1, f_2 \in R, is it always true that R/I \cong (R/\langle f_1 \rangle)/\phi(\langle f_2 \rangle), with \phi: R \rightarrow R/I being the quotient map? That is, is quotienting by I always...
  15. W

    Factoring 'h' out in difference quotient

    Hi all, I'm a beginner in calculus so my question might be stupid. When a function is differentiable, then in difference quotient one can always factor 'h' out in the numerator, even if the function is exponential and 'h' is in the exponent. Is some magic behind this or something else? I've read...
  16. J

    Quotient Rule (In what order do you choose which to differentiate)

    Homework Statement The Derivative of x-2/(x^2-1) Can you show me how to get the derivative using the quotient rule and tell me if the order matters? I always thought that the order never mattered until I got a wrong graph because it seems I got the wrong derivative. Homework...
  17. E

    Discrete quotient group from closed subgroup

    Hi All, I've come across a theorem that I'm trying to prove, which states that: The quotient group G/H is a discrete group iff the normal subgroup H is open. In fact I'm only really interested in the direction H open implies G/H discrete.. To a lesser extent I'm also interested in the H...
  18. F

    Quotient Map Theorem: Topology Induced by f

    Here is theorem 9.2 from Stephen Willard's General Topology: If X and Y are topological spaces and f:X\to Y is continuous and either open or closed, then the topology \tau on Y is the quotient topology induced by f. So f has to be onto doesn't it? Otherwise there will be multiple...
  19. P

    Derivative of product & quotient of functions - method of increments

    In my calculus book, the method of increments is used to find the derived function of the product and quotient of two functions. For example for the derivative of the product of functions u and v where u0 and v0 are the values of u and v at x = x0: y = uv y' = u0(dv/dx) + v0(du/dx) +...
  20. A

    Is dy/dx a Limit or a Quotient?

    dy/dx - a limit or a quotient?? Hello Friends. I have a confusion in differentiation. We know that lim \Deltax->0 ; \Deltay/\Deltax = dy/dx. Then how can dy and dx be treated as independent variables, and dy/dx as their quotient, if dy/dy is actually a limit? Also, since we won't be able to...
  21. R

    I finding the derivative of this quotient

    Homework Statement (x)/(x^2+1)^1/2 Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I got to this (x^2+1)^-1/2[(x^2+1)-x^2/(x^2+1)
  22. P

    How antidifferentiate quotient without using advanced methods?

    How do I find the indefinite integral \int\frac{dx}{x^{2}+16} without using partial integration or variable change? I have no clue how this can be done.
  23. E

    Confusion on the definition of a quotient map

    Let X and Y be topological spaces; let p:X -> Y be a surjective map. The map p is said to be a quotient map provided a subset U of Y is open in Y if and only if p^-1(U) is open in X. Let X be the subspace [0,1] U [2,3] of R, and let Y be the subspace [0,2] of R. The map p:X -> Y defined by...
  24. E

    Help w/ the difference quotient

    Homework Statement Show that if f(x)=sinx then (f(x+h)-f(x))/h=((sin(h/2))/(h/2))(cos(x+h/2) Homework Equations Trig identities, possibly the half angle formulas? The Attempt at a Solution (f(x+h)-f(x))/h = (f(x+ h/2 + h/2)-f(x))/(h/2 + h/2) = (sin(x+ h/2 + h/2)-sin(x))/(h/2 +...
  25. E

    What is the Difference Quotient for f(x) = sin(x)?

    Homework Statement Show that if f(x)=sinx then (f(x+h)-f(x))/h=((sin(h/2))/(h/2))(cos(x+h/2) Homework Equations Trig identities, possibly the half angle formulas? The Attempt at a Solution (f(x+h)-f(x))/h = (f(x+ h/2 + h/2)-f(x))/(h/2 + h/2) = (sin(x+ h/2 + h/2)-sin(x))/(h/2 +...
  26. A

    Derive Quotient Rule: Find the Mistake

    Homework Statement derive f(x)=x2+2x+1/ x2-3x+2The Attempt at a Solution (x2-3x+2)(d/dx)(x2+2x+1)-(x2+2x+1)(d/dx)(x2-3x+2)/(x2-3x+2)2 =(x2-3x+2)(2x+2)-(x2+2x+1)(2x-3) =(2x3-4x2-2x+4)-(2x3+x2-4x-3) =5x2+2x+7/(x2-3x+2)2 that's what I'm getting... but according to the online derivative...
  27. Rasalhague

    Quotient of infinitesimals indeterminate?

    In Lectures on the hyperreals: an introduction to nonstandard analysis, pp. 50-51, Goldblatt includes among his hyperreal axioms that the sum of two infinitesimals is infinitesimal, that the product of an infinitesimal and an appreciable (i.e. nonzero real) number is infinitesimal, and that the...
  28. K

    Need Help in Direct Product and Quotient (factor) Group

    Hi All. I have several questions on abstract algebra. Here are my questions and the attempts I had done so far. (1)Let denote Z as the integer.According to theorem, the direct product of Z3 X Z7 = Z21. Hence, is Z4 X Z2 is equal to Z8? Z2X Z2 is equal to Z4? (2)For Z4 ={0,1,2,3 }, and Z2...
  29. L

    Gibbs Energy and Reaction Quotient

    I have been putting some thought into understanding Gibbs energy but I can't quite figure one thing out. Here is my dilemma: Say that someone wants to react A with B to form C, and they mix pure A with pure B. At the moment the reaction starts, there is no C in the mixture (is this...
  30. I

    Tricky difference quotient problem i am stuck

    Homework Statement find f(a+h)-f(a)/h for the f (x)= 2x+3x2 Homework Equations f(a+h)-f(a)/h The Attempt at a Solution f(a+h)-f(a)/h =2(a+h)-3(a+h)2-2x+3x2 =2a+2h-3a2-3h2-2a+3a2 =2h-3h2/h that is where i am stuck help please
  31. I

    Difference quotient (i know this is right) but it is telling me otherwise

    Homework Statement Given the function , calculate the following values f(x) = 2-5x f(a) f(a+h) f(a+h)-f(a)/h The Attempt at a Solution f(a)= 2-5x f(a+h)= 2-5(x-h) f(a+h)-f(a)/h = -5 i am 100% sure but the darn computer is telling me that f(a) and f(a+h) is wrong. my calc professor is using...
  32. E

    Simplify using Factoring after Quotient Rule

    I am taking an online Introductory Calculus course. I have a decent understanding thus far, however, the problem I'm working on gets somewhat messy and I am having a difficult time simplyifing the answer. f"(x) = (x^2 + 9)^2 (-2x) - [(9 - x^2)(2)(x^2 + 9)(2x)]/(x^2 + 9)^4 the solutions manual...
  33. T

    Difference Quotient Isn't working.

    Homework Statement Find the derivative of f using the difference quotient and use the derivative of f to determine any points on the graph of f where the tangent line is horizontal. f(x)=3x^3-9x Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution \lim_{\Delta...
  34. W

    SO(3) as a quotient group of SU(2)?

    we know there is a two to one homomorphism from SU(2) to SO(3) suppose u is an element in SU(2) then u and -u map into the same element in SO(3) the question is, maybe SO(3) is a quotient group of SU(2)? with respect to the subgroup {I,-I}?
  35. S

    Is the Quotient Rule Necessary?

    If you can write, for example \frac{cosx}{x+1} = (cosx)(x+1)^{-1} then what is the point of the quotient rule? Can't you just use the product rule for everything?
  36. P

    Is there a way to prove the quotient rule using differentials

    Specifically, how do you prove the quotient rule using a similar method that Leibniz used for the product rule?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_rule#Discovery_by_Leibniz I've tried it once for d(u/v) but I keep getting a vdv term in the denominator.
  37. Z

    Quotient groups related problem

    Homework Statement Let G be a finite group and N\triangleleftG such that |N| = n, and gcd(n,[G:N]) = 1. Proof that if x^{n} = e then x\inN. Homework Equations none. The Attempt at a Solution I defined |G| = m and and tried to find an integer which divides both n and m/n. I went for some X...
  38. P

    How to Prove |G:H| = |G:K||K:H| for Quotient Groups?

    As a way to keep busy in between semesters I decided to work my way through Algebra by Dummit and Foote in order to prepare for the fall. Working my way through quotient groups is proving to be quite difficult and as a result I'm stuck on an exercise that looks simple, but I just don't know...
  39. B

    What Is a Quotient Bundle?

    Hi, everybody: I have read different sources for quotient bundle: Milnor and Stasheff, Wikipedia Wolfram, and I still cannot figure out how it's defined. All I know is that it involves a space X, a subspace Y, and a restriction. Let Tx be a bundle p:M-->X for X, and...
  40. T

    Quotient rule integration problem

    \int \frac{1}{2x+3}=\frac{\ln |2x+3|}{2}+c so why is \int \frac{1}{x^2+x}\neq \frac{\ln |x^2+x|}{2x+1}+c ? is it because in general , \int \frac{1}{x}=\ln |x|+c the denominator is meant to be only linear function ?
  41. S

    Quotient Spaces/Homeomorphic spaces?

    Hi, Problem: Let X=\{x\times y|x^2+y^2\leq1\}, \mbox{ in } R^2. \mbox{ Let } X^{\star} \mbox{ be the partition of X consisting of all the one point sets } \{x\times y\}, x^2+y^2<1, \mbox{ along with the set } S^1=\{x\times y | x^2+y^2=1\}. \mbox{ Then it continues by saying...
  42. A

    Verifying S1 in Quotient Topology of R with x~x+1

    Homework Statement verify that R, the reals, quotiented by the equivalence relation x~x+1 is S^1 Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution All i can think of is to draw a unit square and identify sides like the torus, but this would be using IxI, a subset of R^2, and gives a...
  43. J

    Is Z[x]/(2x) Isomorphic to Z/2Z?

    Can anyone explain, in detail, why/why not Z[X]/(2x) is isomorphic to Z/2Z? I know that every element in Z[x] can be written as a_0 + a_1 x + a_2 x^2 + ... with a_i in Z and only finitely many a_i's are nonzero. Now, does (2x) = (2, 2x, 2x^2,...)? Also, the quotient is "like" taking 2x=0, or...
  44. X

    How can I use the power and quotient rule to solve this problem?

    Hi everyone, I have been trying to do this problem in both ways but I can't get the same answer the book says. This is the problem: x/ sqrt (x^2 +1) With quotient rule I got until the point I have [(x^2 +1)^1/2 - x^2/(x^2 +1)^1/2]/(x^2 +1) And with power rule I have [1/sqrt(x^2 +1)] -...
  45. I

    Quotient Rings and Homomorphisms

    Homework Statement Let R and S be rings. Show that \pi:RxS->R given by \pi(r,s)=r is a surjective homomorphism whose kernel is isomorphic to S. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution To show that \pi is a homomorphism map, I need to show that it's closed under addition and...
  46. C

    Finding the sum and quotient of 2 natural domains

    Homework Statement 3. (a) Let f(x) = ln(x^2-1), and [itex]g(x)=\frac{x}{\sqrt{2-x}}[/tex] (i) Find the natural domains of f, g, f + g, \frac{f}{g}, and \frac{g}{f} Homework Equations N/A The Attempt at a Solution I know that the natural domain of f(x) is x belongs to real...
  47. A

    How can I use the Quotient Rule for derivatives to simplify my final result?

    I am still working on getting anything other than subscripts to post with my latex formatting, so for now I have posted a word document. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Joe
  48. M

    Simplifying difference quotient.

    Homework Statement See attachment! 2. The attempt at a solution I multiplied by the LCD of (x+h-1)(x-1) and got 6h/h(x+h-1)(x-1) . I then got 6h/h^2+2hx-2h . However, my answer seems to be wrong. What is my error?
  49. stripes

    Differentiation of a trig function using quotient rule

    Homework Statement Find the derivative of \frac{sin x}{1 + cos x} Homework Equations Quotient rule \frac{gf' - fg'}{g^{2}} The Attempt at a Solution \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{(1 + cos x)(\frac{d}{dx}(sin x)) - sin x(\frac{d}{dx}(1 + cos x)}{(1 + cos x)^{2}} simplify the...
  50. 3

    Finite Order in Quotient Groups: Q/Z and R/Q

    Homework Statement Show that every element of the quotient group \mathbb{Q}/\mathbb{Z} has finite order but that only the identity element of \mathbb{R}/\mathbb{Q} has finite order. The Attempt at a Solution The first part of the question I solved. Since each element of...
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