1st Law of Thermo, work in a piston.

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The problem involves the expansion of air in a piston-cylinder arrangement, focusing on the application of the first law of thermodynamics and work calculations during two distinct phases of expansion. The first phase occurs at constant pressure, while the second phase involves constant temperature, requiring the use of the ideal gas law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate work done during two phases of expansion, questioning how to proceed with the second phase where pressure is not constant. Some participants suggest using the ideal gas law to express variables in terms of known quantities.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to calculate work done during the second phase of expansion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of pressure and volume relationships, and there is an indication of productive discussion regarding the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the values of n and T for the second phase of expansion, which are necessary for calculating work using the ideal gas law. The original poster is navigating these constraints while adhering to homework guidelines.

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Homework Statement


Air is expanded in a piston-cylinder arrangement at a constant P of 200kPa from a volume of 0.1 m3 to a volume of 0.3m3. Then the temperature is held constant during an expansion to a volume of 0.5m3. Predict the total work done in the air.


Homework Equations


W = ∫PdV , PV = nRT


The Attempt at a Solution


For the first part of the expansion I used:
W = ∫PdV = P∫dV = P(V2 - V1) = 200,000Pa ( 0.3-0.1)m3
and got W = 40,000J.

The next expansion is what is confusing me.
Since Pressure is no longer constant I need to leave it in the W = ∫PdV equation.
So, I transform this equation using the ideal gas eqn. PV = nRT and get:
W = nRT∫dV/V = nRT*ln(V3/V2)
But, without knowing the n or the T how do I get the work?

Thanks!
 
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Trick: Replace the nRT in your expression for W with some other expression (using the ideal gas law).
 
Since Temperature is constant for this part I can assume P2V2=P3V3 and find P3 and then replace nRT in my work equation with P3V3 (PV = nRT).
After my computations I got 30,649.54J which sounds within reason.

Was this what you were thinking?
 
Yes. But there's no need to find P3. You can use P2 and V2 instead of P3 and V3.
 

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