2 degree of freedom system modeling

omka
Poster warned about not having used the homework template
Hello,
I'm having difficulty finding equation of motion for 3 degree of freedom spring mass system.

IMG-20171020-WA0007.jpg


Homework Statement
the positions of the masses at the equilibre are respectively X10, X20, X30
At t = 0s, the mass m1 is drawn to the left with the force T (t).
Each of the masses is moved from it's equilibrium position by x1 (t), x2 (t) and x3 (t), respectively.
Write the fundamental equation of the dynamics for m1, m2 and m3
K1 stiffness coefficient spring 1
K3 stiffness coefficient spring 2
f1 f2 f3 viscous coefficient

Homework Equations


the fundamental equation of the dynamics

The Attempt at a Solution


At t= 0s When the mass m1 has moved a distance x1 from it's position (to the left) the spring k1 will be stretched that mean that this spring will be exerting a force on the mass to the right. The viscous force f1 will be exerting also a force on the right because the viscous fiction is always opposite to the direction of motion.
Capture d’écran 2017-10-20 à 15.29.26.png


But the motion of m1 depend also of the motion of mass 2 and so of f2.
Could you please help me to understand what are the forces exerted on the mass 1 and mass 2 from the other masses.
 

Attachments

  • IMG-20171020-WA0007.jpg
    IMG-20171020-WA0007.jpg
    16 KB · Views: 824
  • Capture d’écran 2017-10-20 à 15.29.26.png
    Capture d’écran 2017-10-20 à 15.29.26.png
    2 KB · Views: 650
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
omka said:
I'm having difficulty finding equation of motion for 2 degree of freedom spring mass system.
Doesn't the picture show 3 degrees of freedom?

omka said:
When the mass m1 has moved a distance x1 from it's position the spring k1 will be stretched that mean that this spring will be exerting a force on the mass to the right.
From the point of view of particle 1, does it matter if it is being pulled by the spring because particle 1 has moved to the left or because particle 2 has moved to the right?

omka said:
Could you please help me to understand what are the forces exerted on the mass 1 from the other masses.
To be clear: it is not the other masses that exert forces, only springs and dampers.
 
  • Like
Likes omka
DrClaude said:
From the point of view of particle 1, does it matter if it is being pulled by the spring because particle 1 has moved to the left or because particle 2 has moved to the right?

This is my problem.i can't understand how can one mass move while the other is held still. if i apply force T(t)on m1 m2 will move too ?
 
omka said:
This is my problem.i can't understand how can one mass move while the other is held still. if i apply force T(t)on m1 m2 will move too ?
The fact that the motion of the masses will be coupled is taken care of by the fact that you will get a set of coupled equations of motion. From the point of view of a mass, all that is important is the force acting on it.

So, given the position of the masses, what is the force on mass 1 due to k1 and f1?
 
Thread 'Need help understanding this figure on energy levels'
This figure is from "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics" by Griffiths (3rd edition). It is available to download. It is from page 142. I am hoping the usual people on this site will give me a hand understanding what is going on in the figure. After the equation (4.50) it says "It is customary to introduce the principal quantum number, ##n##, which simply orders the allowed energies, starting with 1 for the ground state. (see the figure)" I still don't understand the figure :( Here is...
Thread 'Understanding how to "tack on" the time wiggle factor'
The last problem I posted on QM made it into advanced homework help, that is why I am putting it here. I am sorry for any hassle imposed on the moderators by myself. Part (a) is quite easy. We get $$\sigma_1 = 2\lambda, \mathbf{v}_1 = \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1 \end{pmatrix} \sigma_2 = \lambda, \mathbf{v}_2 = \begin{pmatrix} 1/\sqrt{2} \\ 1/\sqrt{2} \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} \sigma_3 = -\lambda, \mathbf{v}_3 = \begin{pmatrix} 1/\sqrt{2} \\ -1/\sqrt{2} \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} $$ There are two ways...
Back
Top