3 blocks dragging with friction, find tension

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The problem involves three blocks on a horizontal table connected by a massless cord, with a coefficient of kinetic friction given. The objective is to find the tension in the cord connecting the blocks while considering the effects of friction and the applied pulling force.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss applying Newton's second law to the system of blocks to find acceleration and tension. There are attempts to calculate frictional forces and their impact on the system's motion. Questions arise regarding the correctness of calculated acceleration and tension values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for acceleration and tension, while others have offered guidance on using free body diagrams to analyze forces. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in the approach to calculating tension, particularly regarding the inclusion of friction forces.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct application of physics principles in this context.

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Homework Statement


Three blocks are located on a horizontal table. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the blocks and the table is 0.126. They are connected by a massless cord, as shown in the figure below, and pulled to the right. The masses of the three blocks are m1 = 3.0 kg, m2 = 5.0 kg, and m3 = 6.0 kg. The pulling force is equal to T3 = 82.0 N. What is the tension T2?


Homework Equations



F=ma

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I am just plain clueless
 
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It's F_net = ma, per Newton's 2nd law. Look at all 3 blocks together (they move and accelerate together) , and apply Newton 2 to the system of blocks to calculate the acceleration. Then, to get T2, the cord tension pulling back on m3, you must learn how to draw free body diagrams. Isolate block m3 to denote the forces acting on it. Then apply Newton 2 again. Please show an attempt.
 
Okay so to get acceleration for the whole system, I found all the frictional forces of the blocks and added them up (17.2872N) and subtracted them all by the pulling force (82.0N) and took the mass of all the blocks together and solved for a.

(82.0-17.2872)=14.0a

a=4.62234m/s^2

Is this acceleration right?
 
So i now have the a=4.62m/s^2 and the frictional force is 17.29N. I don't know if this is right but I used: T2-Fk=(M1+M2)(a) so T2=(M1+M2)(a)+Fk or with numbers T2=(3+5)(4.62)+17.29 and I got T2=54.25N is this right?
 
SilentBlade91 said:
Okay so to get acceleration for the whole system, I found all the frictional forces of the blocks and added them up (17.2872N) and subtracted them all by the pulling force (82.0N) and took the mass of all the blocks together and solved for a.

(82.0-17.2872)=14.0a

a=4.62234m/s^2

Is this acceleration right?
Looks good!
So i now have the a=4.62m/s^2 and the frictional force is 17.29N. I don't know if this is right but I used: T2-Fk=(M1+M2)(a) so T2=(M1+M2)(a)+Fk or with numbers T2=(3+5)(4.62)+17.29 and I got T2=54.25N is this right?
Good effort, but not correct. It looks like you took a free body diagram (FBD)of the first 2 blocks, which is fine...but the friction force is the sum of the friction forces on M1 and M2. Do not include the friction force on M3; it doesn't show up in your FBD of the first 2 blocks.
 

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