340 Hz note is played outdoors. Temperature and wave length

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around estimating the wavelength of a 340 Hz sound note played outdoors at a temperature of 25 degrees Celsius. Participants are exploring the relationship between frequency, wavelength, and the speed of sound in air.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find the speed of sound relative to temperature and how it relates to wavelength. Some express uncertainty about the necessary parameters and equations, while others suggest simpler reasoning based on sound travel distance and wavelength calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem conceptually rather than through direct calculation. There is acknowledgment of the need for approximate values and understanding the underlying principles.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention a lack of familiarity with the topic and express concerns about missing basic knowledge related to sound waves and their properties. There is also a reference to external resources for finding the speed of sound at different temperatures.

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Homework Statement



A 340 Hz note is played outdoors on a day when the temperature is 25 degrees celsius. What is the closest estimate of the wavelength of this note?

A) .1 m
B) 1 m
C) 10 m
D) 50 m
E) 340 m

Homework Equations



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so...
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might be useful

The Attempt at a Solution



basically, I tried looking for velocity relative to temperature.
I used the previous equation that
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but that didn't help much because I do not know m or k.
I think I'm missing a basic knowledge because I have not learned much about this stuff yet. (I only know the formula...)

someone help please!
 
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You're overthinknig the problem. They're trying to get you to understand as opposed to simply plug numbers in formulae.

As a ballpark figure - how far will sound travel (in feet) in one second?
How many wavelengths are we looking at in that second?
Thus, how long is one wavelength (approximately).
 
You should be able to find the speed of sound in air at various temperatures and pressures listed somewhere on the internet. You only need an approximate value and you already have the necessary equation.
 
yes I figured this out. Sorry for not reposting. I found the velocity of sound at room temperature which is approximately 340.
 

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