A few quick conceptual questions about capacitators and dielectrics

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The discussion revolves around conceptual questions related to capacitors and dielectrics, specifically focusing on electron movement between capacitor plates and the effects of inserting a dielectric in an isolated capacitor.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the direction of electron movement in a parallel plate capacitor and the implications of adding a dielectric on voltage and charge. Some participants explore the behavior of electric fields and displacement fields in relation to dielectrics.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging with the concepts, with some providing clarifications about the behavior of charges in electric fields and the effects of dielectrics on voltage and charge. There is an exploration of different scenarios, such as whether a battery is involved, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definition of "isolated" in the context of the capacitor, which affects the understanding of how voltage and charge interact when a dielectric is introduced.

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Homework Statement


So my question is conceptual. I am trying to figure out in what direction an electron will move if it starts between two plates of a parallel plate capacitator. One of the plates is at 0V and the other is at 50V.

Also, would placing a dielectric in a charged, isolated capacitator change its voltage but not charge?


The Attempt at a Solution


I know the 100 V plate would repel a negative charge. I would think the electron would move towards the 0V plate just because that is the way a capacitator is supposed to work (moving across an electric potential). Is this correct?

For the second question, I think charge wouldn't change when adding a dielectric in an isolated capacitator because there would be nowhere for the charge to go. But then the voltage would drop? Can someone verify that I am understanding this correctly?
 
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If you insert a dialectic into the capacitor, the dialectic will produce an induced electric field called the "displacement" field. This field acts to reduce the net field in the volume of the dialectic. If the capacitor voltage is not held constant by a battery or some other source, then yes the voltage will drop, but the charge will remain constant.

If the voltage is supplied by some battery, then the voltage will remain constant, but the energy stored in the capacitor will increase. This is because the displacement field has energy, and maintaining the potential forces the battery to do extra work by adding more charges to the plate.
 
recall that because of history, we are stuck with positive test charges

a positive test charge will want to move to the decreasing potential, this would be from 50 to 0

therefore, an electron would be the opposite, right?
 
Hmm okay, thanks for the responses!

My teacher wasn't too clear with wording the question, so I'm not sure if isolated means no voltage is being supplied... So if a battery was supplying voltage, the voltage would stay the same but the charge would increase to make potential stay the same?

Right, I forgot that only positive charges move across decreasing potential. That makes perfect sense now.
 

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