A question about fluids and tubes

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The discussion revolves around an experiment involving the calculation of horizontal distance traveled by water siphoned through a tube from an elevated graduated cylinder. The initial calculations used Torricelli's Law, which applies to fluid exiting an orifice, but resulted in a distance that exceeded actual measurements. Participants noted that flow through a tube differs from flow through an orifice, suggesting that the equations used may not be directly applicable. The conversation highlights the need to consider factors specific to tube flow, such as friction and flow rate, which can affect the outcome. Understanding these differences is crucial for accurate predictions in fluid dynamics experiments.
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My physics teacher cooked up an experiment today on the fly where we tried to calculate the horizontal distance traveled, D, from a rubber tube through which water was siphoned from a graduated cylinder elevated a certain distance H from the ground:
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He modified an experiment he had found of the same sort but with a hole in the cylinder instead, in which case he could use Torricelli's Law to find that v=sqrt(2gh) for water exiting with the surface a distance of h above the hole and basic kinematics to find the horizontal distance upon impact with the ground. We tried the same equations with h being the height of the tube above the opening and the calculations gave a distance that was much farther than the actual distance. What is the proper way to go about this problem and why did the application of the same equations give such a gross overshoot?
 
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RMalayappan said:
tube through which water was siphoned
How does flow through a tube differ from flow through an orifice?
 
RMalayappan said:
We tried the same equations with h being the height of the tube above the opening and the calculations gave a distance that was much farther than the actual distance
So what you are saying is that if you move the top curve of the siphon higher or lower, using the "same equations" the distance d should vary?
Seems that you have forgotten something about the hose.
 
Evidently I have forgotten something, but I don't know what it is. I'm not exactly sure what is different between flow out of an orifice and a tube.
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks
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