A Rotation with Translation Movement is standalone natural phenomenon.

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The discussion centers on the concept of rotation with translation movement as a standalone natural phenomenon, asserting that it should have its own law of momentum conservation. An experiment involving two pencils demonstrates that those with rotational movement exhibit lower velocity than those without. The author claims that traditional simulators are incorrect in their representation of this phenomenon. A counterpoint is raised regarding the conservation of angular momentum, clarifying that while angular momentum about an object's center of mass may not be conserved, the total angular momentum of the system remains conserved when calculated correctly. The overall conclusion emphasizes the need for further exploration of this theory and its implications in classical mechanics.
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The experiment 2 animations

This is animation based on classical mechnics laws
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze27vxm/sim.gif



This is animation based on theory of standalone rotation with translation movement.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze27vxm/movie2.gif



The Natural Experiment 2.

I made 3 successful experiments with 2 pencils.
On all these experiments pencils with rotation movement have lower velocity than pencils without rotation.

The theory is CORRECT.
The simulator is WRONG.

Materilas:
2 pencils and thin rubberband 3.5'' from Staples store.

The rubberband is repulsing 2 objects(2 pencils). Two their parts have opposite velocities to each other. After initial action the rubberband has velocity zero. The rubberband mass much less then pencil mass.

Here is some snapshots which shows experiment dynamic.
http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/1xmqm1l0s4ys/h6o9ht/1%20(1).jpg
http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/1xmqm1l0s4ys/h6o9ht/2%20(1).jpg
http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/1xmqm1l0s4ys/h6o9ht/3%20(1).jpg
http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/1xmqm1l0s4ys/h6o9ht/4%20(1).jpg

The rotation with translation movement is standalone natural phenomenon. It should have it's own law of momentum conservation.
 
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If you calculate the total angular momentum of the system, you'll see that angular momentum is conserved. (When you calculate the total angular momentum of each object, use the same reference point and don't neglect the angular momentum due to the motion of the center of mass.)
 
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