A window washer: tension problem

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The problem involves a window washer suspended on a platform, analyzing the forces acting on him as he pulls on a cable. The subject area includes concepts of tension, forces, and Newton's laws of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the window washer, including tension, gravitational force, and the force he exerts. Questions arise about how to calculate net force and the relationship between these forces.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the forces involved, with some participants suggesting different ways to group the objects and analyze the forces. Guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of the system as a single object, but no consensus has been reached on the calculations.

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Participants are navigating the implications of ideal conditions (massless and frictionless cables) and the roles of various forces, including the normal force, which is under discussion but not fully resolved.

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A window washer of mass M is sitting on a platform suspended by a system of cables and pulleys as shown. He is pulling on the cable with a force of magnitude F. The cables and pulleys are ideal (massless and frictionless), and the platform has negligible mass.

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Fnet=ma
FG=mg

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b

I said the forces that are pulling the window washer up consist of a force equal to F and a force equal to the tension in the string attached to the platform.

Then, I took into calculation all the forces acting on the washer, which are the platform, the Earth and the cable.

I know that T is upward and F down, and T=|-F|

I need F

I am thinking Fnet is FN + T - FG - F

And I am really stuck :(
 

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I think you can treat the person, platform, and bottom pulley as one object. Then you don't need to worry about the extra variable FN, the normal force of the platform on the person.

So to get Fnet, what are all the forces acting on the "object".
 
All the forces acting on the object are T, FG and F

so FNET=T - FG - F ?

or is it T=FG+F
F = T - FG ?
 
F is upward. He pulls down on the rope, so it is pulling up on him (Newton's 3rd Law).

But we're not quite there yet. In how many different places does the rope pull upward on the object?
 

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