A window washer: tension problem

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the forces acting on a window washer suspended on a platform via cables and pulleys. The key forces include the tension (T) in the cable, the gravitational force (FG) acting downward, and the force (F) exerted by the washer. The net force (Fnet) is expressed as the sum of these forces, leading to equations that relate T, FG, and F. The participants explore how to simplify the problem by treating the washer and platform as a single object to clarify the force interactions. The conversation emphasizes understanding the upward and downward forces to solve for the unknowns effectively.
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Homework Statement



A window washer of mass M is sitting on a platform suspended by a system of cables and pulleys as shown. He is pulling on the cable with a force of magnitude F. The cables and pulleys are ideal (massless and frictionless), and the platform has negligible mass.

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Fnet=ma
FG=mg

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b

I said the forces that are pulling the window washer up consist of a force equal to F and a force equal to the tension in the string attached to the platform.

Then, I took into calculation all the forces acting on the washer, which are the platform, the Earth and the cable.

I know that T is upward and F down, and T=|-F|

I need F

I am thinking Fnet is FN + T - FG - F

And I am really stuck :(
 

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I think you can treat the person, platform, and bottom pulley as one object. Then you don't need to worry about the extra variable FN, the normal force of the platform on the person.

So to get Fnet, what are all the forces acting on the "object".
 
All the forces acting on the object are T, FG and F

so FNET=T - FG - F ?

or is it T=FG+F
F = T - FG ?
 
F is upward. He pulls down on the rope, so it is pulling up on him (Newton's 3rd Law).

But we're not quite there yet. In how many different places does the rope pull upward on the object?
 
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