AC supply - Signal generator - CRO in circuits

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This discussion revolves around the setup of an experiment involving alternating current (AC) circuits, specifically focusing on how to change the frequency of the supply and measure the resulting peak current through a coil. The original poster expresses uncertainty about circuit diagrams and the role of a signal generator in this context.

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  • Participants explore how to change the frequency of an AC supply and the methods for measuring current. Questions arise about the necessity of a signal generator, the oscillation of ammeter readings, and the use of a cathode ray oscilloscope (CRO) for measurements.

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Some participants provide clarifications regarding the function of the signal generator and the nature of AC ammeters. There is ongoing exploration of how to represent these components in circuit diagrams, and multiple interpretations of the setup are being discussed.

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Participants note a lack of practical experience with the apparatus and express difficulty in finding relevant information in textbooks. There is also mention of the potential for confusion regarding the display of voltage and current values on the signal generator.

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Hello,
This problem is about a.c. I am used to simply using basic a.c. supply symbol in circuit diagrams.

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Here, I need to draw the set-up for an experiment where I can change the frequency of the supply (not the voltage) and see how this affect the peak current through a coil.

how can i change the frequency and how do I measure it. I have never drawn circuits like that. Will the signal generator be part of the circuit or is it simply connected to the a.c. alone?

also, how would I measure the current. Won't an ammeter's pointer keep on oscillating or will I have the rms value? or should I use a cro?

I do not have any apparatus to try this, nor can I find any explanation about this in books?
 

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PhysicStud01 said:
how can i change the frequency and how do I measure it. I have never drawn circuits like that. Will the signal generator be part of the circuit or is it simply connected to the a.c. alone?

also, how would I measure the current. Won't an ammeter's pointer keep on oscillating or will I have the rms value? or should I use a cro?

Your questions are not about circuits, but the signal generator and the ammeter.

When you see the signal generator, there will be a knob or some other adjustment for frequency.

AC ammeters do not vibrate. There are many ways to measure DC and AC current. Read about them here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammeter
 
anorlunda said:
Your questions are not about circuits, but the signal generator and the ammeter.

When you see the signal generator, there will be a knob or some other adjustment for frequency.

AC ammeters do not vibrate. There are many ways to measure DC and AC current. Read about them here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammeter
in a circuit diagram, how do I show this?
 
There are no univeral symbols for those. You try a sketch and post it here with the UPLOAD button.
 
should there be a signal generator connected to the ac supply or can we obtain the frequency directly from an a.c supply?
 
anorlunda said:
Here is a picture of a typical variable frequency source. It needs to be connected to a source. Some models use a DC source, some use an AC source. You could show a picture like this on the schematic rather than a symbol.

AC-Power-Source-RK5000-Variable-frequency-power-supply-Power-500W.jpg

I found the picture using this link
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=i...g...0..0j35i39j0i30j0i5i30j0i8i30.j8-jqMnYcbk
thanks. So, I can use this independently, without a signal generator or cro to find the frequency?
 

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PhysicStud01 said:
without a signal generator

It is a signal generator. You set the frequency with knobs.
 
anorlunda said:
It is a signal generator. You set the frequency with knobs.
thanks. but are the values for V and I displayed on this generator rms values or peak values
 
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It is usually safe to assume that AC measurements are displayed as RMS values, unless stated otherwise.
 

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