Acceleration of a person jumping off of a bathroom scale

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The discussion revolves around the acceleration of a person jumping off a bathroom scale, with a focus on the forces acting on the individual and the calculations involved in determining the resulting acceleration. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically forces and motion.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the person, specifically identifying normal force and gravitational force. There are attempts to clarify the calculations leading to the acceleration result, with some questioning the handling of signs and units in the equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the calculations and pointing out potential errors in the arithmetic. There is a focus on ensuring correct application of the equations and understanding the directionality of forces, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to arrive at the expected acceleration.

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Participants note that the original poster's calculations yield an acceleration of 21.19 m/s², while the expected answer is 1.9 m/s², indicating a significant discrepancy that is under examination. There is also mention of the importance of carrying units throughout the calculations.

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Homework Statement
A 72 kg person jumps up off a bathroom scale. Determine the acceleration of the person when the scale reads 840 N.
Relevant Equations
Fnet=Ma
Fg=mg
fnet=ma
Fn-fg=ma
840 - (72)(-9.8) = 72a
a= 840 - (-705.6) /72
a=21.19m/s^2

The correct answer is 1.9m/s^2 unsure of how to get that
 
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There are two external forces acting on the man. Name them.
 
hutchphd said:
There are two external forces acting on the man. Name them.
Normal and Gravity
 
Yes I see you have that correct.
Did you ever learn arithmetic? :smile:Carefully carry the units...I don't see how you could screw this up! (and I'm a professional).
 
g = +9.8 m/s2 should be substituted in the equation. You already put the minus sign in the equation Fn - fg = ma in front of fg to indicate that it is down. Then you put an extraneous negative sign when you substituted the numerical value, essentially saying that the weight force is up. You can only say that the weight is "down" once, not twice.
 
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kuruman said:
g = +9.8 m/s2 should be substituted in the equation. You already put the minus sign in the equation Fn - fg = ma in front of fg to indicate that it is down. Then you put an extraneous negative sign when you substituted the numerical value, essentially saying that the weight force is up. You can only say that the weight is "down" once, not twice.
Thank you.
 
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Physics_Amazing said:
Thank you.
A good sanity check would be if you did exactly the same procedure for when the scale reading is the actual weight of the man. You should, of course, get zero.
 
Physics_Amazing said:
Homework Statement:: A 72 kg person jumps up off a bathroom scale. Determine the acceleration of the person when the scale reads 840 N.
Relevant Equations:: Fnet=Ma
Fg=mg

fnet=ma
Fn-fg=ma
840 - (72)(-9.8) = 72a
a= 840 - (-705.6) /72
a=21.19m/s^2
This is correct if the bathroom scale is attached to the ceiling and the person is jumping down.
 
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Physics_Amazing said:
Homework Statement:: A 72 kg person jumps up off a bathroom scale. Determine the acceleration of the person when the scale reads 840 N.
Relevant Equations:: Fnet=Ma
Fg=mg

fnet=ma
Fn-fg=ma
840 - (72)(-9.8) = 72a
a= 840 - (-705.6) /72
a=21.19m/s^2

The correct answer is 1.9m/s^2 unsure of how to get that
The double negative which arises where you plug-in values for Fg (-9.8) for the downward gravitational acceleration is incorrect because you already account for directionality by minusing Fg from Fn (Fn - Fg).
 
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Physics_Amazing said:
Homework Statement:: A 72 kg person jumps up off a bathroom scale. Determine the acceleration of the person when the scale reads 840 N.
Relevant Equations:: Fnet=Ma
Fg=mg

fnet=ma
Fn-fg=ma
840 - (72)(-9.8) = 72a
a= 840 - (-705.6) /72
a=21.19m/s^2

The correct answer is 1.9m/s^2 unsure of how to get that
It would be helpful to carry units throughout the math/arithmetic. Also, the parantheses in the second-to-last step should encompass the whole numerator term, (840-705.6)/72 which will get you to around just below 2 or 1.9 m/s^2.
 

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