Adiabatic Lapse Rate Explained: Work, Energy, & Temperature

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The discussion centers on the adiabatic lapse rate and its relationship to work, energy, and temperature. It highlights the confusion surrounding the concepts of energy conservation and the First Law of Thermodynamics. The key point is that expanding a gas reduces its temperature due to the distribution of heat, but compressing it back to its original volume restores its temperature without energy loss. However, any thermodynamic process involves work and heat transfer, which are essential to understanding energy changes. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing these principles in thermodynamic systems.
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I Think I understand this, but when I look it up, I keep reading about work done and energy used, which puzzles me.
The simple way I have always thought about it is, when you expand a gas you also expand the heat it contains, so while it contains the same amount of heat, it's concentration (which I equate to temperature is reduced) it you were then to compress it back to it's original volume, it would have it's origional temperature, (no energy used or lost)
Is this wrong.
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styart said:
but when I look it up, I keep reading about work done and energy used
This is called the First Law of Thermodynamics. It's how the "bookkeeping" on all forms of energy is done.
styart said:
(no energy used or lost) Is this wrong.
Any process taking a system from one state to another and returning it to the original state always involves work done on and/or by the system, and/or heat lost and/or gained by the system.
 
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