Advanced Rotational Velocity Question

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A particle of mass m rotates uniformly inside a frictionless parabolic bowl at a radius of 0.4 meters and an angle of 20 degrees with the vertical. The angular velocity of the particle is determined to be 8.2 rad/s. The net force acting on the particle is directed horizontally towards the center, resulting from the weight and the normal reaction force. The normal force must be greater than the weight component acting along the slope due to the circular motion. Analyzing the forces through a diagram helps clarify the relationship between the forces and the resulting centripetal acceleration.
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A particle of mass m rotates with a uniform speed on the inside of a bowl's parabolic frictionless surface in a horizontal circle of radius R=0.4 meters as shown below. At the position of the particle the surface makes an angle θ=20 degrees with the vertical. The angular velocity of the particle would be:

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I have no idea what to do. The answer is 8.2rad/s
 

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Victorzaroni said:

Homework Statement



A particle of mass m rotates with a uniform speed on the inside of a bowl's parabolic frictionless surface in a horizontal circle of radius R=0.4 meters as shown below. At the position of the particle the surface makes an angle θ=20 degrees with the vertical. The angular velocity of the particle would be:

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea what to do. The answer is 8.2rad/s

The object is traveling in a circle, so the net force is is horizontal towards the centre.
The acting forces - which combine to make that net force - are weight (vertically down) and the Normal Reaction force which acts at right angles to the slope, so is in a direction 20o above the horizontal.

Draw that triangle of forces (as arrows as usual) and you will be able to use trig and/or Pythagoras to calculate the size of the centripetal acceleration.

From that you can get the angular velocity.
 
how would I express the normal reaction force? I've got Fc=Fnet, so mac=mg+N. What is N? Is it mgsinø, mgcosø? What is it?
 
Victorzaroni said:
how would I express the normal reaction force? I've got Fc=Fnet, so mac=mg+N. What is N? Is it mgsinθ, mgcosθ? What is it?

I am not sure it is either. If the mass was sitting on a slope of that angle it would be one of them - but this mass is circulating, so the reaction force has to be much larger.

The weight force would be represented by an arrow, vertically down.
To add the Reaction Force, you draw its arrow starting at the end of the weight force arrow [join the arrows head to tail]
The Reaction arrow is angled up at 20 degrees.
It has to be long enough to make the resultant force horizontal.

Try drawing it - then analysing the resulting picture.
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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