Algebra help with Lorentz Transformation

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The discussion revolves around difficulties with algebra related to the Lorentz transformation, specifically transitioning from x' to x. The user seeks a step-by-step guide to resolve an issue where they consistently end up with an extra x' and v during their calculations. They mention rearranging the initial equation and substituting for t but are unsure of the next steps. Other participants emphasize the importance of showing their work to identify where mistakes may be occurring. The user is looking for clarification on the algebraic process to achieve the correct transformation.
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Hey all, my algebra isn't as great as it used to be and I am having trouble with some of the algebra dealing with Lorentz transformation. Basically, I just need someone to do a quick step by step of how to go from x' to x (see the following).

I started with the top equation in this image (x')
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and moved some things around to solve for x
image018.gif



Then I tried plugging in for t to put into terms of t'
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This is where I am stuck, somehow I keep ending up with an extra x' and v that I cannot get rid of... By the way, the result is supposed to end up being
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So I was hoping for someone to do a quick little algebra step by step so I can figure out where I made my mistake(s). This is my first time posting, I hope all the images work. If needed, here is where I obtained the images... http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/252/lorentztrans.html
Thanks in advanced for any help!
 
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Luckier said:

Homework Statement


Hey all, my algebra isn't as great as it used to be and I am having trouble with some of the algebra dealing with Lorentz transformation. Basically, I just need someone to do a quick step by step of how to go from x' to x (see the following).

I started with the top equation in this image (x')
image028.gif



and moved some things around to solve for x
image018.gif



Then I tried plugging in for t to put into terms of t'
image014.gif



This is where I am stuck, somehow I keep ending up with an extra x' and v that I cannot get rid of...
What did you do after this? Did you use the second equation to substitute in for t in the first equation?
 
vela said:
What did you do after this? Did you use the second equation to substitute in for t in the first equation?

Hey, thanks for the reply. First I just rearranged the very first equation to get
image018.gif


And then I plugged in for t (into the equation above), using this equation for t:
image014.gif


And basically, I can't figure out the algebra. Supposedly, you should end up with
image020.gif

according to http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/252/lorentztrans.html

And that's it really, I just need someone to write out the steps algebraically for plugging in that t into x=vt+x'√(1-v2/c2) to get
image020.gif
 
It's against the forum rules to do the problem for you. You need to show us what you did, so we can see where you're going astray. So what did you do next?
 
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