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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation y' (cosh^2)x - (sin^2)y = 0 with the initial condition y(0)=pi/2. Participants are focused on integrating the equation, starting with the transformation dy/((sin^2)y)=dx/(cosh^2)x. They explore the definition of hyperbolic functions, noting that the integration of cosh^2x leads to confusion regarding its relationship with tanh. The correct approach is clarified, emphasizing that the integral of sech²x equals tanh. The conversation highlights the similarities between hyperbolic and circular functions, particularly in their derivatives and identities.
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y` (cosh^2)x - (sin^2)y = 0, y(0)=pi/2
i'm also stuck on the integration step...
my first step is
dy/((sin^2)y)=dx/(cosh^2)x
however, i don't how to integrate the right side~
 
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You could try using the definition:

\cosh \left( x \right) \equiv \frac{{e^x + e^{ - x} }}{2}
 
ok, i'll try that~
thanks!
 
Formula for hyperbolic functions closely mirror those for circular functions
tan'(x)=(sec(x))^2
tanh'(x)=(sech(x))^2
Osbornes Rule is a way to do this in general
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OsbornesRule.html
 
wow~ i thought that only cos and sin have that kinda identity...
thanks! :)
 
hmm...
if i use \cosh \left( x \right) \equiv \frac{{e^x + e^{ - x} }}{2} to integrate cosh^2x=(e^2x + e^(-2x) +1)/2,
then [integrated(cosh)dx]=[(1/4)e^2x+(1/4)e^(-2x) + x/2]
but does that equal tanhx?
 
I'm afraid not. It's the integral of sech²x that is equal to tanhx.

let y = tanhx
then
y = sinhx/coshx
y' = {coshx.(sinhx)' - sinhx.(coshx)'} / cosh²x
y' = {cosh²x - sinh²x} / cosh²x
y' = 1 / cosh²x
y' = sech²x
 
ok, thanks!
 
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