Am I confusing input & output impedance?

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The discussion centers on designing a common-emitter amplifier with a specified output impedance of 4.7kOhms and a gain of -10. Participants clarify that the output impedance is primarily determined by the collector resistor, which is set to match the desired output impedance. There is confusion regarding the role of the transistor's internal output resistance (ro) and its significance in saturation mode versus linear operation. It is emphasized that for amplifiers, maintaining linear operation is crucial to avoid saturation, which would affect output performance. Overall, understanding the relationship between collector resistance and output impedance is key in amplifier design.
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Homework Statement



design a common-emitter amplifier with an output impedance of 4.7kOhms and again of-10 using a transistor with a beta=200 powered by a 12V DC supply.

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rest of the problem i get; just this one thing bugging me.
the solution starts out with solving for the collector current. I understand why the output is taken at the collector, but i don't get why they set R_c equal to the given output impedance. i thought the output impedance was the equivalent resistance as seen from where ever the "output" was being taken (in this case the collector).
 
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Perhaps think of a amplifier as a voltage source that has some internal resistance (capacitance or inductance). The output impedance is a measure of how near the output is to an ideal voltage source. If the output impedance is very low then the load (the input impedance of the next stage) will have little effect.

The output impedance of a common emitter amp is roughly equal to the collector resistor. The required output resistance was specified as 4.7K so they set the collector resistor at that value.
 
CWatters said:
The output impedance of a common emitter amp is roughly equal to the collector resistor. ...

...because the exact output resistance is ro||Rc. And the internal BJT output resistance ro is very large (20...50 kohms).
 
but if we were in saturation mode would we take into account r0?
 
Why would the transistor be saturated? It should be in a linear mode.
 
high power switch?
 
Well yes in a switch the transistor might be saturated but normally you would hope it's not saturated in an amplifier. What happens to the output if it does?
 
iScience said:
but if we were in saturation mode would we take into account r0?
In your question, you spoke about a common-emitter amplifer, didn`t you?
 
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