Analyzing the Motion of a Thrown Box Using Newton's Laws of Motion

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The discussion revolves around analyzing the motion of a box thrown at a high speed and its subsequent collision, applying Newton's laws of motion. The original poster presents a scenario involving a 41-kg box thrown at 235 m/s, which is brought to a halt in a collision lasting 6.8 milliseconds. The focus is on determining the average net force acting on the box during this event.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the time duration of the collision, questioning whether it is in seconds or milliseconds. The original poster attempts to calculate acceleration and net force but expresses confusion over the results. Some participants suggest drawing diagrams to visualize the problem and emphasize the importance of showing work. Others inquire about the reasoning behind the original poster's doubts regarding the correctness of their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem and encouraging the original poster to clarify their understanding of the physics involved. There is an exploration of different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the time unit and the calculations related to acceleration and force.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the original poster's feelings of inadequacy in physics and the challenges posed by the textbook explanations. There is a mention of the need to use trigonometric functions to analyze projectile motion in a follow-up question regarding a quarterback's throw.

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Homework Statement



A 41-kg box is thrown at a speed of 235 m/s and is brought to a halt in a collision that lasts for a time of 6.8 ms. What is the magnitude of the average net force that acts on the box during the collision?


Homework Equations



Sum of Forces = m*a



The Attempt at a Solution



Well I tried t=6.8, v(o) = 235 m/s, v = 0, , and tried to solve for acceleration, which i got -34.56. but putting that in the sum of forces = m*a is not giving me the correct solution. i suck at physics :(
 
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Hi alexdude777.
Is it the time 6.8 seconds or miliseconds ?
 
step one of solving physics problem is to draw a picture, so where's your drawing? and then show your work. plus you can never have a (-) acceleration the (-) sign is just to show the direction.
 
It's definitely 6.8 milliseconds

Well I did make a drawing but how would I post it here? I mean it was just a box that I labeled 41-kg, with a vector towards the wall labeling the direction and velocity(235m/s), and then hitting a wall. Then I had t=6.8ms on the side

I am terrible at the stuff...I am going to fail :(
 
welcome to pf!

hi alexdude777! welcome to pf! :wink:
alexdude777 said:
Well I tried t=6.8, v(o) = 235 m/s, v = 0, , and tried to solve for acceleration, which i got -34.56.

as Karlx :smile: points out, you won't get 34.56 if you use .0068 :redface:
 
Then I get it to equal -34558.823 ... there is NO way that can be right right? I was using that v=v(o) + at for the equation... am i even close to on the right track or no?
 
Hi alexdude777.
Why do you think it cannot be right?
 
HOLY CRAP it was right! Wow. Thanks so much. I really appreciate it guys. Can I ask a projectile motion question here if I show you guys all the work I have tried?
 
Here is the question

A quarterback claims that he can throw the football a horizontal distance of 183 m (200 yd). Furthermore, he claims that he can do this by launching the ball at the relatively low angle of 35° above the horizontal. To evaluate his claim, determine the speed with which this quarterback must throw the ball.

Well I drew a picture. The line is x=183m, with theta being 35degrees. I need to find v(o)

I had v(ox)=v(x) = ?
a(x) = 0
t = ?
x = 183

v(oy) = ?
v(y) = ?
a(y) = -9.8m/s^2
t = ?
and I tried finding y with some trig...is it 159.53, the max height of the ball?

I guess I am just stuck here because I don't know where to go next, the book is not doing that great of a job explaining this or at least with a problem similar to this. I know I need to use the 35degrees and use trig. maybe to find the initial velocity in both the x and y direction? but i don't know what the length of the sides of the triangle would be, because the only other thing i have is how long x is. Any advice on how to get started?
 
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You are on the rigth way, alexdude.
You must see the motion of the ball as a composition of two kinds of motion: one in the horinzontal axis and another in the vertical axis.
Which kind of motion on the x axis?
Which kind of motion on the y axis?
Try to write the equations of motion for each axis.
And from it, up to you...
 

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