Angular Acceleration generation help

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The discussion centers on the generation of angular acceleration using a pendulum to impact a cylinder. Participants explore the physics involved, including torque, moment of inertia, and the conversion of rotational kinetic energy into angular acceleration. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical setup details.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the relationship between torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration, suggesting a formulaic approach.
  • Another participant questions the specifics of the setup and suggests that a clearer description is needed to provide guidance.
  • A participant describes the pendulum setup, including its dimensions and the ability to adjust weights and angles, and expresses a desire to understand how to convert the pendulum's rotational kinetic energy into angular acceleration of the cylinder.
  • There is a mention of the need to consider the radii involved in the system, indicating that the relationship between the pendulum and cylinder may introduce additional complexity.

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Participants have not reached a consensus, and multiple competing views remain regarding the specifics of the setup and the method to achieve the desired angular acceleration.

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Participants note the importance of specifying the radii involved in the system, as well as the need for more detailed information about the setup to provide accurate guidance.

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Hello,

I am in process of building a set up where i will be using a pendulum to impact a cylinder to generate angular acceleration. I started from basic physics for a answer and found the following method but doesn't seem to go any where from here. Please provide guidance.

Torque = Moment of Inertia X Angular Acceleration
So, Angular Acceleration = Torque/Moment of Inertia
where
Torque = Force x length = mass of pendulum x acceleration due to gravity x length of pendulum
Moment of Inertia = Mass x Lenght^2 = mass of pendulum x length of pendulum^2
 
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Hi and welcome.
Those formulae look ok but you ask where to go from there.
You haven't given any detail about what you want to do and we can't go anywhere without an idea of the set up you are planning.

Are you, perhaps, trying to do the rotational equivalent of linear momentum transfer when one mass collides with another?
The same basic laws apply, so you can say that the total initial angular momentum is equal to the total final momentum and that torque X the time it acts (rotational impulse) equals the change in angular momentum. There are more variables than in the linear case because you need to specify the radii involved, which may be different(?) for the pendulum and the cylinder.
It should all be sort-outable, given a better description of the model.
 
Hello,

Thanks for your response.

I will try here to better define the complete fixture. I had build this initially to generate the linear acceleration but want to modify it to also generate the angular accelerations.

Pendulum : The rod of the pendulum is around 65 inches tall. One end of the rod is free to rotate whereas the other end has a pendulum where i can add and remove weights. Also i can change the angle of the rod of pendulum to attain angles from 0 degrees to 85 degrees. This was designed in such a way to attain maximum rotational kinetic energy conveyed to the sled to gain maximum linear accelerations.

Sled : Sled which moves on rails has a cylinder on which i will be measuring the angular acceleration. For angular measurements i will have the sled contrained not move on rails. At this point i am not sure about the diameter of the cylinder but i assume it would be approximately 12 inches.

My question was how do i convert the rotational kinetic energy of the pendulum into angular acceleration of the cylinder.

I appreciate your guidance and wil provide more information if required. Please let me know.

Thanks
Pines344
 
Not sure if the provided information was sufficient to provide a response. Please let me know if more info is needed.

Thanks
Pines344
 

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