Angular acceleration of a rock, in a tire, on a car

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The problem involves a rock wedged in the treads of a tire with a radius of 15 inches, as the car travels at a speed of 70 mph. The main question is about determining the angular acceleration of the rock.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the car's speed and the angular acceleration of the rock, questioning how to set up the problem. There is an exploration of the definitions of angular velocity and angular acceleration, particularly in the context of constant linear velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that with constant angular velocity, the angular acceleration may be zero. There is a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the professor's intention, with a shift towards discussing radial acceleration instead. Guidance is offered on relating angular and linear quantities, but no consensus is reached on the original question.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering whether to convert units and are reflecting on the implications of constant velocity on angular acceleration. There is also a note about the professor's acceptance of both angular and radial acceleration in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A rock is wedged into the treads of a 15 in radius tire. The car to which it is attached is driving down the road at 70mph.
What’s the angular acceleration of the rock?

Homework Equations



ar=- [tex]\omega[/tex]02r

The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure where to begin really, how does the car's speed influence the angular acceleration of the rock? What are the basic steps to take to set this problem up?
 
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deathcap00 said:

Homework Statement



A rock is wedged into the treads of a 15 in radius tire. The car to which it is attached is driving down the road at 70mph.
What’s the angular acceleration of the rock?

Homework Equations



ar=- [tex]\omega[/tex]02r

The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure where to begin really, how does the car's speed influence the angular acceleration of the rock? What are the basic steps to take to set this problem up?

angular velocity is the rate of change in angle. Angular acceleration is the rate of change in angular velocity. If a tire is traveling at a constant linear velocity, then its angular velocity must be constant.

[tex]\frac{d\omega}{dt} = \alpha[/tex]. What is the derivative of a constant? If you do not know calculus, what would the rate of change in velocity be if velocity was constant?
 
xcvxcvvc said:
angular velocity is the rate of change in angle. Angular acceleration is the rate of change in angular velocity. If a tire is traveling at a constant linear velocity, then its angular velocity must be constant.

[tex]\frac{d\omega}{dt} = \alpha[/tex]. What is the derivative of a constant? If you do not know calculus, what would the rate of change in velocity be if velocity was constant?

Is my angle 2*pi?

do I need to convert the radius of the tire to miles (or the miles/hr to ft/s)?

and the derivative of a constant is zero
 
deathcap00 said:
Is my angle 2*pi?

do I need to convert the radius of the tire to miles (or the miles/hr to ft/s)?

and the derivative of a constant is zero

The car is spinning at a constant angular velocity to sustain a constant linear velocity. The rock is doing whatever the tire is doing. The rock then has constant angular velocity. With constant angular velocity, angular acceleration is zero.
 
xcvxcvvc said:
The car is spinning at a constant angular velocity to sustain a constant linear velocity. The rock is doing whatever the tire is doing. The rock then has constant angular velocity. With constant angular velocity, angular acceleration is zero.

So my answer is zero then, that would explain why my professor said that he meant to ask for radial acceleration (but said he would accept angular as well though).

Just for the sake of knowing, how would I find the radial acceleration of the rock?

Thanks so much for your help.
 
deathcap00 said:
So my answer is zero then, that would explain why my professor said that he meant to ask for radial acceleration (but said he would accept angular as well though).

Just for the sake of knowing, how would I find the radial acceleration of the rock?

Thanks so much for your help.
We know to relate an angular value to a linear value, we multiply by the radius from the center of rotation. To remember this equation, note that the units make sense.
rad => meter
rad/s => m/s
rad/s^2 => m/s^2

So we can either divide your linear velocity by radius to find [tex]\omega[/tex] and use
[tex]a_r = \omega^2 r[/tex]
or we can multiply
[tex]a_r = \omega^2 r[/tex]
by [tex]\frac{r}{r}[/tex]
and use the above rules to change the equation to
[tex]a_r = \frac{v^2}{r}[/tex]
where v is the linear velocity. Then we can use that equation. It's just simple plug n' chug.
 
Radial acceleration is a=v^2/r.
 
thank you both very much!
 

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