Angular Magnification for mirrors and lens

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The discussion centers on the concept of angular magnification for mirrors and lenses, specifically questioning the result that angular magnification equals -1 for small angles. The user derives that m(angular) = (h'/h) * (d/d'), leading to confusion when substituting h'/h = -d'/d. The conversation highlights the importance of angular magnification in optical instruments like microscopes, which not only enlarge images but also position them for comfortable viewing. Additionally, the user seeks clarification on how parallel light rays with a small angle focus in relation to the optical axis of a concave mirror. The response encourages further investigation into the focusing behavior of these rays as described in relevant textbooks or notes.
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Homework Statement


I'm looking for someone to clarify a strange result regarding angular magnification. For both mirrors and lens.

Homework Equations


m(angular) = θ'/θ
M(lateral) = h'/h = - d'/d
θ ≈ h/d (for small angles)

The Attempt at a Solution


Using the angle equation, I get a result that looks like:

m(angular) = (h'/h) * (d/d')

But since h'/h = -d'/d, I get m(angular) = -1, regardless of the angles, distances, etc. Is this wrong, or is it true that for small angles the magnification is actually always -1?

Thanks to everyone in advance.
 
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Angular magnification is typically relevant for situations where the lateral magnification is formally infinite. For instance, a microscope's job is to make tiny objects "look big", but just as importantly, a microscope's job is to put the image "very far" away, so that you can view it with a relaxed eye (it takes more effort to focus on something close to your face). Also, angular magnification is typically relevant for compont optical instruments, where the comparison is made when the object is measured from the objective lens and the angle of the image is measured at the focal point of the eyepiece.
 
How about this: parallel light rays, makng a small angle α with the optical axis of a spherical concave mirror, where will the rays focus? First of all, do they focus on the same plane (perpendicular to the optical axis) as the focal point, and secondly, how far from the axis?

That's the actual question, but I wanted to get a better understanding of the concept as a whole.
 
jix said:
parallel light rays, makng a small angle α with the optical axis of a spherical concave mirror, where will the rays focus? First of all, do they focus on the same plane (perpendicular to the optical axis) as the focal point, and secondly, ...
I believe that they will, if α is small. That explains the small angle qualification.

jix said:
... how far from the axis?
That's something that you should search in your book/notes, and then get back to us.
 
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