Angular Momentum of an asteroid

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular momentum change of the Earth due to an asteroid impact. Participants clarify the concept of fractional change in angular momentum and the conservation of momentum principles involved in the collision. The asteroid's mass and velocity are considered, alongside the Earth's moment of inertia, to estimate the impact's effect on Earth's angular speed. There is confusion regarding the asteroid's radius and how it influences calculations, with suggestions to treat the asteroid as a point mass for simplification. The conversation emphasizes understanding angular momentum in both linear and rotational contexts, particularly in relation to physics education levels.
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I understand the concept of angular momenum, but I do not understand how to use it in this problem:
An asteroid of mass 1.0 * 10^5 kg, traveling at a speed of 30 km/s relative to the Earth, hits the Earth at the equator. It hits the Earth tangentially and in the direction of Earth's rotation. Use angular momentum to estimate the fractional change in the angular speed of the Earth as a result of the collision?

First off, what is fractional change?
I set up a conservation of momenum problem, momentum of Asteroid + momentum of Earth= momentum of Asteroid prime + momentum of Earth prime.
 
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The fractional change in angular momentum is

\frac {\Delta L}{L}
 
This is my first post. I don't usually plea for help like this but I have been stuck for some time? Thanks Tide. How do I find the momentum prime of the Earth? I don't understand how exactly the asteroid affects it.
 
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there's an inelastic collision when the asteroid hits the earth
 
So I set up a conservation of momentum and a conservation of energy situation. How do I find the radius of the asteroid? Don't I need the radius and/or the initial angular velocity of the asteroid?
 
Ie(We-Weprime)=Ia(Waprime-Wa)
I cannot seem to find the velocity without the moment of inertia of the asteroid. How do I do this without knowing the radius of the asteroid?
 
I think that momentum is the same units, linear or angular. This is a tough problem. I would add the linear momentum of the asteroid to the angular momentum of the Earth since it hits tangentially, and check to see if the added mass of the asteroid is significant enough to change the I of the earth.
 
another definition for angular momentum is mass*velocity*radius
 
Take the asteroid to be small compared with the Earth so its moment of inertia is just that of a point particle - or just write its angular momentum as L_a = m_a v_a R_e which is correct at the time of impact given the asteroid makes a tangential hit.
 
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Thanks. I have never seen that form of angular momentum before and was unaware that the asteroid would take on the Earth's radius.
 
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lightfire22000 said:
Thanks. I have never seen that form of angular momentum before and was unaware that the asteroid would take on the Earth's radius.

I am sure you have. That is how angular momentum is usually introduced in physics courses:

\vec L = \vec r \times \vec p

If you're taking an engineering course, however, they may introduce it in terms of moments of inertia.
 
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Actually, our course(not engineering, just high school Physics) introduced it as the rotational analog to angular momentum, with the moment of inertia being analagous to mass in linear momentum. I understand how that form is derived though.
 
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lightfire22000 said:
Actually, our course(not engineering, just high school Physics) introduced it as the rotational analog to angular momentum, with the moment of inertia being analagous to mass in linear momentum. I understand how that form is derived though.

Oh, I see. I assumed it was a college course.

In that case, you can use a moment of inertia approach in which case you'll approximate the asteroid as a point "revolving" about the Earth's axis so I_a = m_a R_e^2. The appropriate angular velocity is then found from v = \omega R_e
 
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