Another 2nd law Violation Thread

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Recent discussions highlight an increasing scrutiny of the second law of thermodynamics, particularly following a lecture by physicist Daniel Sheehan. Over the past 15 years, more than two dozen challenges to the law have emerged in scientific literature, suggesting potential laboratory violations. Sheehan's research indicates that if the second law could be violated, it might allow for the conversion of environmental heat into usable energy, presenting a significant green energy opportunity. However, skepticism remains regarding the feasibility of these claims, with some arguing that any energy harnessed would ultimately return to the environment, maintaining the law's validity. The discourse emphasizes the need for rigorous testing and resolution of proposed paradoxes within the context of classical and quantum thermodynamics.
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I recently attended this lecture by Physicist Daniel Sheehan, any opinions about the 2nd law soon violated in Laboratory Experiments? (and we are not talking about background fluctuations, etc).



Experimental Challenges to the
Second Law of Thermodynamics
D.P. Sheehan, University of San Diego
Abstract:


Over the last 15 years the absolute status of the second law of
thermodynamics has come under increased scrutiny. More than two dozen
distinct challenges have appeared in the refereed scientific
literature—more than the sum total over the previous 150 years—raising
the possibility that the second law might soon be shown violable in
laboratory experiments.

This talk will survey recently proposed challenges from a number of
research groups around the world, focusing on those most amenable to
laboratory test. Possible ramifications of second law violation will also be
discussed, the most significant of which might be the recyclability of
environmental heat into usable work. The thermal energy content of the
atmosphere, ocean, and upper crust is estimated to be more than 10,000
times that of the world's fossil fuel reserves, making it a potentially
inexhaustible reservoir of green energy.

1) “Challenges to the Second Law of Thermodynamics: Theory and
Experiment” V. Capek and D.P. Sheehan; Fundamental Theories of
Physics, Vol. 146 (Springer, Dordrecht, The Netherlands) 2005.

2) “Quantum Limits to the Second Law” D.P. Sheehan, Editor; AIP
Conference Proceedings, Vol. 643 (AIP, Melville, NY) 2002.



His work seems extensive, anyone aware of it? All opinions appreciated, Thanks, John
 
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I don't see why that abstract mentions the total heat content of our surroundings: this thermal energy is constantly replenished. Even if we could freely violate the 2nd law and harness this energy for work (thereby cooling our surroundings), the work (or the friction involved) would simply reheat our surroundings. Since it's a perpetual cycle, it doesn't matter how big the store is.

Sounds dubiously extraordinary. Does he actually propose a specific violation? (Simply counting dozens of paradoxes is only meaningful if they haven't each been individually resolved..)
 
I like to think of thermodynamics from an extremely classical and practical viewpoint as I am a Mechanical Engineer and my interest is in heat engines.

In that regard, I'm 100% convinced that the 2nd law holds 100% of the time. However, when you get into quantum it becomes a huge mudfest. For me entropy is Q/T.
 
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