Antiderivatives & Indefinite Integrals

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The discussion revolves around computing an integral involving antiderivatives and indefinite integrals, specifically focusing on the expression involving powers of x and their manipulation. The subject area is differential calculus, typically covered in introductory calculus courses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the validity of the integral setup and question the complexity of finding a standard antiderivative. Some suggest that the integral may require special functions, while others discuss the arithmetic involved in manipulating the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on attempts and clarifying misunderstandings related to arithmetic errors in the manipulation of the integral. There is no explicit consensus on the feasibility of the integral, but some guidance has been offered regarding the method used.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the level of the integral and its appropriateness for a calculus one exercise, indicating potential missing information or assumptions about the problem's context.

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Homework Statement



Compute the following integral:



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The Attempt at a Solution


x^(1/2)-2(x^2)^(1/3) +1*x^(-1/4)dx =
(2/3)x^(3/2)-...I don't know this part...+x * (4/3)x^(3/4)
and this is where I stopped...

btw sorry I didn't put the symbols and stuff, I'm slow when it comes to technology...
 
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what level is this at?
 
Gregg said:
what level is this at?

Differential Calculus (calculus 1)
 
is this the right integral?

[tex]\int \frac{x^{\frac{1}{2}}-2\left(x^2+1\right)^{\frac{1}{3}}}{x^{1/4}} \, dx[/tex]
 
I don't think that integral is going to be possible without special functions.
 
Cyosis said:
I don't think that integral is going to be possible without special functions.

O_O special funcitons?
 
Where did you get get this integral from and what is the question? Finding a 'normal' anti-derivative is not going to happen. So if this is a calculus one exercise there is more to it than you're telling us.
 
Cyosis said:
Where did you get get this integral from and what is the question? Finding a 'normal' anti-derivative is not going to happen. So if this is a calculus one exercise there is more to it than you're telling us.

The question was "Compute the following integral: "
 
I don't see how you will be able to compute that integral at your level.
 
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I see, while you may think this integral is nearly the same it is in fact much much easier. Just do the division and you get three trivial expressions.
 
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Cyosis said:
I see, while you may think this integral is nearly the same it is in fact much much easier. Just do the division and you get three trivial expressions.

ok then, what do you think?

∫ [x^(1/2) – 2*x^(2/3) +1] * x^(-1/4) dx

Distribute the x^(-1/4)
∫ x^(-1/8) – 2*x^(-1/6) + x^(-1/4) dx

Solve
(8/7)x^(7/8) – (12/5)x^(5/6) + (4/3)x^(3/4) + C , I entered that in but it's wrong...
 
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The method is correct, but the arithmetic is not. For example 1/2-1/4 is not -1/8 and 2/3-1/4 is not -1/6.
 
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Cyosis said:
The method is correct, but the arithmetic is not. For example 1/2-1/4 is not -1/8 and 2/3-1/4 is not -1/6.


(x^(1/2))(x(-1/4) - (2x^(2/3))(x(-1/4)) + (x(-1/4)) = (x^(1/4)) - (2x^(5/12)+ x^(-1/4)
x^(1/4)-2x(5/12)+x^(-1/4)
(4/5)x^(5/4) - (24/17)x^(17/12) +(4/3)x^(3/4) + c

it's right, thank you :)
 

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