Applying Torque Knowledge to Real-Life Problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on applying the concept of torque to a real-life problem, specifically regarding the correct placement and direction of torque vectors in relation to a cylindrical object. Participants explore the theoretical aspects of torque and angular momentum, as well as practical implications in the context of the problem presented.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the correct placement of the torque vector in their drawings related to a cylindrical object.
  • Another participant suggests that the torque vector is in the right direction but should be shown at the axle to avoid complications with an unknown reaction force.
  • There is a discussion about the direction of torque, with one participant questioning if it should be tangent to the barrel and facing the positive z-axis, while another insists it should be along the axle, at the center of the barrel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct placement and direction of the torque vector, indicating that there is no consensus on these aspects of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific orientations (x-axis vs. z-axis) and the implications of torque placement concerning angular momentum and reaction forces, but these points remain unresolved and depend on the specific context of the problem.

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Hello. I am trying to learn how to apply my knowledge of torque to a real life problem but I'm not quite sure how. I have attached a picture describing what I am trying to do. I would be very appreciative if anyone would take the time to take a look at what I have done and see if my view of torque is correct. Mostly just want to know if I have put my torque vector in the right location I have included drawings along with my questions that should make understanding easier.

Please don't give me a Wikipedia link because that is useless for me. Iv'e read it a million times. I have tried countless sources, but I have found none that use real applications.

Please let me know if I can clarify anything.

Thank you very much for reading.
 

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Hello Teachme! :smile:
Teachme said:
… just want to know if I have put my torque vector in the right location

Right direction :smile:, but wrong line.

torque is proportional to rate of change of angular momentum,

and angular momentum is always in the direction of the axis of the cylinder, so torque is also. :wink:

But there is an unknown reaction force on the axle, so to avoid this coming into the equations, you will always take moments (torques) about the axle, so that's where your torque arrow should be shown. :wink:
 
Mess up
 
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Oh never mind. I see it is suppose to be in the center of the barrel. Correct?
 
Hi Max! :smile:
Teachme said:
So I have the right direction to where the torque extends, but would it be correct to say the torque is tangent to the barrel so facing the positive z-axis in this case?

I don't understand.

Your picture showed it along the x-axis, not the z-axis.

And as i said, it should be along the axle (the centre of the barrel).
 
Teachme said:
Oh never mind. I see it is suppose to be in the center of the barrel. Correct?

Yes. :smile:
 

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