Are Unit Conversions Necessary for Calculating Momentum in Inelastic Collisions?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an inelastic collision between two freight cars, focusing on momentum and kinetic energy calculations. The original poster questions the necessity of unit conversions for momentum calculations and the expression of energy loss in the context of the problem.

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  • Participants explore whether unit conversions to SI units are necessary for calculating momentum and discuss the implications of using different unit systems. There is also a clarification sought regarding the expression of energy loss as a ratio of initial to final kinetic energy.

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Participants are actively engaging with the questions raised, with some suggesting that while conversions may not be necessary, they could simplify calculations. There is a recognition of differing opinions on the use of units, and some participants express frustration with the English system of units.

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There is mention of the potential for examiners to penalize unnecessary conversions, as well as confusion surrounding the distinction between mass and weight in different unit systems.

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Ok, the question is the following:

"In a railroad switchyard, a 56 ton freight car is sent at 7.0 mi/h toward a 31 ton car that is moving in the same direction at 26 mi/h."

- what is the speed of the pair after they couple together?
-what fraction of the initial kinetic energy was lost in the collision?


--> My questions is, to find the momentum, do I need to convert the units to kg? I have seen it in examples where the units are not converted. Does it matter?

--> Also, the fraction of energy lost is expressed as lost energy/initial energy , is that correct?

Thanks
 
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You don't have to convert to SI, but it makes everything so much easier and nicer. I learned physics (and I'm assuming most people are the same... and hoping) all in SI, so to me it just feels nicer :P It wouldn't be difficult; just look up a conversion table on google, or something.

For the second part, I would say that the question is asking what the ratio of the initial kinetic energy to the final kinetic energy.

In other words, initial kinetic energy/final kinetic energy.

Hope that helps!
 
Ok, I see.

My point was, if I do the calculations with tons, the answer for momentum will be in mi/h, right? So, that is really no point in converting to kg, it is easier just to look at final answer and convert it to SI (m/s) then. Is that a correct way of looking at it?
 
frasifrasi said:
So, that is really no point in converting to kg, it is easier just to look at final answer and convert it to SI (m/s) then. Is that a correct way of looking at it?

I agree 100%. :smile:

Examiners will take marks off if you create extra work for yourself!

Actually … don't even bother to convert it to m/s at the end unless you think the examiners want you to.
 
This is one of the reasons why I dislike the English system of units; it can lower a students confidence in solving problems while they are trying to learn the concepts.

As you probably know, kg is mass and not weight. In a pound is the English systems unit of force (where as it is a Newton in SI). For mass, the English system has units known as Slugs. So if you have a 10 lb weight, then it has a mass of about 0.31 Slugs [(10lb/32.2ft/s^2)=0.31 Slugs]
 

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