Arithmetic in Mathematical Fields (in particular GF(2^8) )

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The discussion revolves around finding the determinant of a matrix in the finite field GF(2^8). Participants are exploring the appropriate modulus to use in this context, specifically whether to apply mod 256 or mod 255.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster seeks clarification on the modulus to use for the determinant in GF(2^8), questioning the implications of a negative determinant. Some participants provide differing opinions on the correct modulus, while others discuss the nature of GF(256) as a finite field compared to the integers modulo 256.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants presenting various interpretations of the modulus question. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the field and the computation of elements, but no consensus has been reached on the specific modulus to apply.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the distinction between finite fields and integer rings, with particular attention to the implications of negative numbers in their calculations. There is an emphasis on the polynomial nature of elements in GF(2^8) and the relevance of primitive polynomials.

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Homework Statement



* note that I meant fields in the abstract mathematical sense, notphysical (i.e. electric) fields! *

Finding the determinant of a matrix in GF(28)

I want to know if it is using mod 256 or mod 255 in the field of GF(28)

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Just math

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the determinant of a matrix no problem. Everything in between is all good. What I want to know is that in the field of GF(28), am I taking the number mod 255 or mod 256?

I know that there are a total of 256 elements in the field, but I'm just not sure which mod to take for the final answer, since it is a negative determinant.
 
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Modulo 256. The possible moduli are 0, 1, 2, ..., 255, the possible remainders when you divide by 256.
 
thanks Mark
 
Noooo! You're both wrong. GF(256) is a finite field, an extension field of GF(2). It is not not the same as the ring Z/256 of integers modulo 256.
 
Hurkyl, I agree that GF(256) is a finite field, but if we're both wrong, then how would I handle whole negative numbers?
 
You are just computing Mod 2 with the numbers. The elements are polynomials, the coefficients are from Z_2 and you're computing Modulo some primitive polynomial over Z_2 of 8th degree.
 

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