Atwood Machine Tensional Value Problem HELP

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The discussion centers on the analysis of an Atwood machine involving a pulley with mass and two weights, where one mass is larger than the other. The user initially calculated the tensions in the system and expressed confusion about the relationships between them, particularly regarding T3 and its comparison to T1 and T2. After receiving feedback, it was clarified that T3 is less than the sum of T1 and T2 due to the dynamic nature of the system, which means the tensions are not sufficient to maintain stasis. The user ultimately resolved their confusion, confirming that T3 is indeed less than the sum of T1 and T2. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding tension dynamics in a non-static scenario.
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1. A pulley with mass Mp and a radius Rp is attached to the ceiling, in a gravity field of 9.81 m/s^2 and rotates with no friction about its pivot. Mass M2 is larger than mass m1. The quantities Tn and g are magnitudes.

A) T3 is ... T1 + T2
B) T1 is ... m1g.
C) The C.M. of Mp+m1+M2 does not accelerate.
D) T3 is ... m1g + M2g + Mpg.
E) T2 is ... T1
F) The magnitude of the acceleration of m1 is ... that of M2.


I have not included a diagram, but this seems to be a standard Atwood machine. First of all, using Fnet = ma, for each mass, I found that:

T2 = M2g - M2a,
T1 = m1a + m1g
T3 (the tensional force holding the pulley to the ceiling) = M2g + m1g + Mpg

Using this knowledge, I determined that:

A) T3 > T1 + T2
B) T1 > m1g
C) True (because the pulley itself is not accelerating)
D) T3 = m1g + M2g + Mpg (I have a feeling this might be where I went wrong)
E) T2 > T1 (I wasn't sure about this one either, chose it because M2 is greater)
F) The magnitude of the acceleration of m1 is = that of M2

This is my last question of an assignment due in only two hours, and I'm completely stumped. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

EDIT*** figured it out - C is false and D is <
sorry
 
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Why is D "<"? I also expected them to be equal.
 
SLesh said:
Why is D "<"? I also expected them to be equal.
< is correct. This is a dynamic situation, so the tensions are lower than needed to retain stasis.
 
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