Automatic gear changing bicycle

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The discussion revolves around creating an automatic gear-changing bicycle that shifts gears based on speed variations. Participants suggest exploring continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) as a potential solution, noting their availability for motor scooters. Challenges include the complexity of shifting down gears, especially when stationary, and the friction issues associated with existing designs. Some users recommend using Google Images for better search results on automatic shifting bicycles. Overall, the conversation highlights both the interest in the project and the technical hurdles involved in developing such a bicycle.
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hi..

i want to make a automatic gear changing bicycle in which instead of manual changing of gears they change automatically with variation of speed...

for this project i need help..if you know any thing about this then please reply...by posting
 
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rao shahb said:
hi..

i want to make a automatic gear changing bicycle in which instead of manual changing of gears they change automatically with variation of speed...

for this project i need help..if you know any thing about this then please reply...by posting

I actually saw an infomercial for this type of bike a few months ago. Have you tried googling for a match? I'll try if I have time...
 
berkeman said:
I actually saw an infomercial for this type of bike a few months ago. Have you tried googling for a match? I'll try if I have time...


i m waiting for your reply...i tried googling but i don't find anything useful..
 
You want to design and build an automatic shift bicycle, but you can't even figure out how to search on Google for what's out there? :cry:
 
Mech_Engineer said:
You want to design and build an automatic shift bicycle, but you can't even figure out how to search on Google for what's out there? :cry:

i get many things related to the topic but they are not easily understandable...some of them are patents and some are just description...
 
Maybe you could also look at a continuously variable transmission (CVT). It might actually reduce the complexity of having switches and things to decide when to change gears, etc, etc.
 
There have been a few autochanging bikes - but it's generally much easier to make them that change up as you peddle faster. Making ones that can change down as you peddle slower or allow you to change down while not moving are a lot harder.
 
More on my point, a quick google shows that quite a few CVTs are available for motor scooters. They seem to run around $100. It seems to me to be very reasonable alternative if you're interested.

I think it will be quite difficult, as mgb mentioned to get it back into a lower gear.
 
Instead of using the pedals, just make the transmission use the speed of the back wheel as the shift reference. When you slow down, it automatically gets you into a lower gear, and as it speeds up it goes into a higher gear.
 
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If you think of the rear dérailleur it's easy to make it go into a high gear - if you take the spring off a normal unit the weight of the hanging part will pull the chain into the smallest cog (highest gear) but to make it go down (lifting the hanger and moving to a higher gear) you need a very strong spring.
In practice this puts so much friction on everything that you can't move it.

There have been a few attempts at a hub gear with a clutch (really a preselect) to switch into bottom gear automaticaly once you have stopped. But none of them seem to have caught on.

A sprung split plate+belt style CTV could work but they are heavy and inefficient compared to a bike chain.
 
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I'd use something like a opposed con variable drive the used the tension pull on the chain to sense the load. it would gear down as the pull was harder, and ease up as the pull reduced

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