Banked highway curves and static friction

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A 1200 kg car is navigating a banked curve with a radius of 67 m at an angle of 12 degrees and a speed of 95 km/hr. The discussion centers on determining whether a friction force is necessary and how to calculate it. Initial attempts to solve the problem resulted in confusion regarding the equations of motion and the role of friction. Clarifications were provided on the importance of recognizing that the friction force equals the friction coefficient multiplied by the normal force. Ultimately, resolving the forces parallel to the slope simplifies the calculations needed to find the required friction force.
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Homework Statement


A 1200 kg car rounds a curve of radius 67 m banked at an angle of 12 degrees. If the car is traveling at 95 km/hr, will a friction force be required? If so how much and in what direction?


Homework Equations


F=ma
a=v2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know what I'm doing wrong with this problem. These are the two equations I have from them and when I try to solve I either get a huge number or a negative.

Ncos\theta-Ffrsin\theta-mg=0

Nsin\theta+Ffrcos\theta=ma

I'm positive that it needs friction force and I think it is in the direction of the center of curve, but I haven't figured out a way to solve. Can someone please help?
 
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Hey thanks! I think I found out what I was doing wrong. I didn't really take notice that the force of friction was equal to the friction coefficient multiplied by the normal force. Thank you very much!
 
joseg707 said:
Hey thanks! I think I found out what I was doing wrong. I didn't really take notice that the force of friction was equal to the friction coefficient multiplied by the normal force. Thank you very much!

I don't think you did.
Your equations were right but you need to solve for F by eliminating N.

By far the simplest way is to resolve || to the slope in the first place.
 
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