BJT Homework Help: Troubleshooting Results

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting results from a BJT lab experiment, particularly concerning the accuracy of measured currents I(c), I(b), and I(e). Participants express confusion over the behavior of the circuit with different resistor combinations, questioning why I(b) is negative with R1=10k and R2=1k, suggesting a possible cutoff mode. There is also uncertainty about the circuit's operation in saturation with R1=1k and R2=10k. The accuracy of calculating I(b) using I(e) - I(c) is debated, especially when the values are close. A more accurate method for determining I(b) is hinted at but not detailed in the discussion.
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This is the result from a lab,but I am not sure the results are correct.
Also,when I try to find I(c) , I(b) and I(e),by measured V(RC) and V(RE),I find the results strange.
I guess the combination of R1=10k and R2=10k is under linear region,but the dc gain is so small.
For combination of R1=10k and R2=1k,Idon't know why the I(b) is negative.Is it the cut off mode?
And for combination of R1=1k and R2=10k,it should be in saturation?
I guess R2 is like a battery so current I(b) flow ,but how about R1??
 

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You calculated IB using IE - IC. This can be inaccurate when IE is close in value to IC.
There is another way you can determine the value of IB in each test situation, it's a more accurate method, too.

What is this second method I speak of?
 

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