Block Sliding on Moving Cart: Determining Time and Distance with Friction Forces

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a block on a moving cart, where a 200N force is applied to the cart. It is established that the block will slide due to the applied force exceeding the static friction force calculated using the coefficient of static friction (0.3). To determine the time it takes for the block to slide 1.5 meters, the user calculates the acceleration of the block using the kinetic friction coefficient (0.25) and finds it to be approximately 7.547 m/s². However, the final time calculated (0.6304 seconds) is incorrect, as the expected answer is 1.080 seconds, indicating a miscalculation in the acceleration or friction forces. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying free body diagrams and understanding the forces acting on both the block and the cart.
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Homework Statement


A block is sitting on top of a cart (block A). The cart is being pulled at 200N to the right.
If a force F = 200N is applied to the 30 kg, cart, show that the 20kg block A will slide on the cart. Also determione the time for the block A to move on the cart 1.5m. The coefficients of static and kinetic frition between the block and the cart are us(static) = 0.3, uk(kinetic)= 0.25. Both cart at block start from rest.


Homework Equations


F=ma
force of friction f=usmg (for static friction)
force of friction f=ukmg (for kinetic friction)
xf = final position, x0= initial position,
xf=x0 + v0t + 1/2at^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed that if the force is acting to the right on the cart, that it would be acting to the left on the the box. So when I do a free body diagram of the box I have F=200N going to the left, and f=usmg going to the right.
To prove that it will move I just show that 200>usmg, which it is when you plug in the numbers given.
To find how far it moves I just said:
F-f=ma
so
200-ukmg = max and since I'm only looking at the box I use the 20kg.
200-(0.25)(20)(9.81) = 20a
a= 7.547

then I plugged this acceleration into
xf = x0 + v0t + 1/2at^2
x0 = 0, v0 = 0 so it simplifies to
xf = 1/2at^2
1.5m = 1/2(7.547)t^2
and t = 0.6304 s.

Apparently the answer is 1.080s.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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For Part a: Assume block A does not slide on the cart and find u_s. If it is less than 0.3 you know the block slides. You will need to do free body diagrams for both block A and the cart. Both are accelerating to the right in part a.

After you have convinced yourself that the block moves redo with u_k=0.25.
 
I don't see a 200 N force on block A. I see a Ff, mg and N_A force and an acceleration.
 
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