Calculating Distance Traveled by Cart with Sliding Block

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The problem involves a block sliding on a cart, where the cart is initially at rest and experiences friction with the block. The objective is to determine the distance the cart travels while the block slides before coming to rest.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum to find the cart's final velocity and the use of friction to determine acceleration. There are questions about the forces acting on the cart and the block, as well as the correct interpretation of the problem's requirements.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the forces involved and the resulting accelerations. Some participants have offered corrections to the initial approach, while others have confirmed the validity of certain calculations. There is acknowledgment of a potential calculation error by the original poster's teacher.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of frictional forces and the relationship between the block and cart's movements. The problem's setup and the definitions of acceleration for both the block and cart are under scrutiny.

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A block of mass m =0.75 kg is set on a large cart of mass M = 6.5 kg. The cart's rollers are frictionless, but there is a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.36 between the cart's surface and the block. The cart is at rest when the block is given an initial speed of 5.2 m/s. The block slides across the cart's surface, but the sliding stops before the block reaches the other end of the cart.

What distance does the cart travel along the floor from the time the block is set in motion to the time sliding ceases?The attempt at a solution
What I did to solve the problem is I first used conservation of momentum to find the final velocity of the cart.
I did mv0 = (m+M)vf .
Then I found acceleration by doing a = μmg/M.
Then I used those values and used v2 = v02 +2ax and solved for x, and got .35 meters, but it is wrong. Can someone help?
 
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Raj Kishore said:
The cart's rollers are frictionless ... What distance does the cart travel ... ?
Once the cart starts to move, what is going to stop it?
 
nothing stops the cart, but the question is asking how much distance has it traveled until the block on top stops sliding
 
Raj Kishore said:
nothing stops the cart, but the question is asking how much distance has it traveled until the block on top stops sliding
Ah. Good point. I missed that.
 
Your expression for a is wrong. The force of friction is F_f = - \mu mg, where m is the mass of the block. So the relevant acceleration is a = - \mu g.
 
Isn't that the acceleration of the block? The acceleration of the cart would be Ma = μmg, so a = μmg/M... right? Or am I wrong?
 
Raj Kishore said:
Isn't that the acceleration of the block? The acceleration of the cart would be Ma = μmg, so a = μmg/M... right? Or am I wrong?

You're right--that's how far the block slides on the cart before coming to rest, which isn't what the problem asked for.
 
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So in terms of the cart, we have the initial velocity is zero, and the final velocity is v, so we use your formula:

v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a x

with v_0 = 0 and a = \frac{\mu m g}{M} (as you said). (the acceleration of the cart is positive.)
 
Raj, your work looks correct to me. With g = 9.8 m/s2, I get the distance to be 0.355 m = 0.36 m.
 
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Ok thanks guys, I talked to my teacher and he said he made a calculation error.
 

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