Boltzmann distribution vs. Distribution of energy

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The discussion centers on the apparent contradiction between the Boltzmann distribution and the Maxwell-Boltzmann speed distribution regarding particle energy states. While the Boltzmann distribution suggests that the most likely energy state is E_i = 0, the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution indicates that the probability density for E approaches zero at E = 0. This discrepancy is resolved by recognizing that although the lowest energy state has the highest probability, there are many more states at slightly higher energies, leading to a peak in the energy distribution at a value greater than zero. Additionally, in reaction kinetics, the fraction of particles overcoming an energy barrier is not simply derived from integrating the energy distribution, as higher energy states may not contribute to the reaction. Overall, understanding these distributions requires careful consideration of the degeneracy of states and the relationship between energy and velocity.
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Hi folks!

i'm a biologist trying to understand some basics of statistical mechanics. :wink:
unfortunately, i cannot get over the following problem(s).

A)

in the Boltzmann distribution the fraction of particles with energy Ei is given by:

\frac{Ni}{N} = \frac{exp(-\beta Ei)}{\sum exp(-\beta Ej)} \:\:\: (1)

The most likely state should therefore be Ei = 0 with probability 1/Z.

However, when one derives the distribution of energies via the Maxwell-boltzmann speed distribution one obtains:

f_E\,dE = 2\sqrt{\frac{E}{\pi(kT)^3}}~\exp\left[\frac{-E}{kT}\right]\,dE \:\:\: (2)
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f(E) goes to zero for E = 0. How is this possible if particles with Ei = 0 are the most frequent species?


B)

In reaction kinetics the reaction constant for one direction is given by:

k = A exp(-\beta Ea) \:\:\:(3)

where A is the Arrhenius constant and Ea is the hight of the energy barrier for the reaction.

The term exp(-\beta Ea) is supposed to correspond to the fraction of particles that are fast enough to get over the energy barrier.

Coming back to equation (2), shouldn't this fraction correspond to \int f(E)dE from Ea to infinity? I don't see how one could get this from integrating (2) ?
Respectively, shouldn't taking the sum in equation (1) over all particles with Ei > Ea give this value as well?

What am i missing here?

thanks in advance!

Tim
 
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timmy1234 said:
A)

in the Boltzmann distribution the fraction of particles with energy Ei is given by:

\frac{Ni}{N} = \frac{exp(-\beta Ei)}{\sum exp(-\beta Ej)} \:\:\: (1)

The most likely state should therefore be Ei = 0 with probability 1/Z.

Yes, that's correct. The most likely state will be with the one with Ei = 0. It might help to look at the equation like this:

\frac{N_i}{N} = \frac{g_i exp(-\beta E_i)}{\sum g_j exp(-\beta Ej)} \:\:\: (1)

where the gj's are the degeneracy of the states (that is, the number of states with the same energy).

timmy1234 said:
However, when one derives the distribution of energies via the Maxwell-boltzmann speed distribution one obtains:

f_E\,dE = 2\sqrt{\frac{E}{\pi(kT)^3}}~\exp\left[\frac{-E}{kT}\right]\,dE \:\:\: (2)
.

f(E) goes to zero for E = 0. How is this possible if particles with Ei = 0 are the most frequent species?

When considering the energy distribution, you have to count up all the states with a particular energy E (or that have energy between E and E + dE if you want to be technical). Since the energy of a single ideal gas particle is E = 1/2 m (vx^2 + vy^2 + vz^2) the energy is determined by magnitude of the velocity. But since velocity is a vector, there will be a multiple states with different velocity vectors, but the same magnitude of velocity and energy. So even though the lowest energy state will have the highest probability, there's only one such state, and a state with slightly higher energy will have a slightly lower probability, but there will be a bunch of states with that energy.

To get there, you have to start by looking at the probability by enumerating each state, and then figure out which states have the same energy. Since the velocities of particles indicate what state they're in, start with the velocity distribution. f_v(v_x,v_y,v_z) dv_xdv_ydv_z is the number of particles with velocity between (v_x,v_y,v_z) and (v_x+dv_x,v_y+dv_y,v_z+dv_z)

f_v(v_x,v_y,v_z) dv_xdv_ydv_z = \frac{A}{Z} exp\left(- \frac12 \beta m(v_x^2 + v_y^2 + v_z^2) \right)dv_xdv_ydv_z

Then you can switch to a speed distribution using dv_xdv_ydv_z = 4\pi v^2 dv to get

f_v(v) dv = \frac{B}{Z} v^2 exp\left(- \frac12 \beta mv^2 \right)dv

(the factor of 4pi is absorbed into the normalization constant B). Now even though the most probable state is the one with zero energy, because as velocity increases there are more states with the same energy the velocity distribution will have a peak at some v > 0. If you are comfortable thinking about things in velocity space, then the number of states with speed between v and v + dv are counted by the volume of a thin spherical shell with radius v: 4 pi v^2 dv

Then to switch to an energy distribution, use dv = \frac{dv}{dE}dE = \frac{1}{mv}dE = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2E}}dE

f_E dE = f_v dv = f_v \frac{1}{\sqrt{2E}}dE = \frac{C}{Z} \sqrt{E} exp\left(- \frac12 \beta E \right)dE

(again, constant factors like sqrt(2) have been absorbed into the normalization constant C).

So in the end, while the state with E_i = 0 is most likely to be occupied, when you multiply the number of states at a given energy by the probability of occupying a state with that energy, the most frequency species won't be the ones with E_i = 0, it will be at something higher.

timmy1234 said:
B)
In reaction kinetics the reaction constant for one direction is given by:

k = A exp(-\beta Ea) \:\:\:(3)

where A is the Arrhenius constant and Ea is the hight of the energy barrier for the reaction.

The term exp(-\beta Ea) is supposed to correspond to the fraction of particles that are fast enough to get over the energy barrier.

Coming back to equation (2), shouldn't this fraction correspond to \int f(E)dE from Ea to infinity? I don't see how one could get this from integrating (2) ?
Respectively, shouldn't taking the sum in equation (1) over all particles with Ei > Ea give this value as well?

What am i missing here?

thanks in advance!

Tim

I'm not so sure on this one, because it's been a few years since I've taken pchem or had anything to do with reaction rates. I think you might want to not consider particles with much higher energy than E_a because if their energy is too high, the reaction "won't stick." But I can't really do more then speculate on the answer to your question.
 
hello kanato,

wow thanks a lot for this crisp explanation! Can't believe Atkins hasn't a paragraph like this :)

thanks again!
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks
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