Boundary value problem involving eigenvalues

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I need a bit of help with these boundary value problems. I'm trying to find their eigenvalues and eigenfunctions and although I pretty much know how to do it, I want to exactly WHY I'm doing each step. I attached part of my work, and on it I have a little question next to the steps I need explained. The biggest question I have is how do you know what form to choose for the eigenfunctions. Thanks a lot for taking the time to help me out.
 

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In the first problem, you have
y"+ \lambda y= 0
with boundary conditions y'(0)= 0, y(0)= 0.
You first try \lambda< 0 and determine that there are no non-trivial functions satisfying that so no negative \lambda is an eigenvalue.

You then try \lambda= 0 so your equation is y"= 0 which has general solution y(x)= C1x+ C2. y'= C1 so the boundary conditions give C1= 0. But C2 can be anything so there exist non-trivial solutions of the form y= C. That is,
0 is in fact an eigenvalue. Since the set of all such solutions is an "subspace" of the space of all functions, you can find a basis for it. The simplest is y= 1 so that y= C= C(1). Actually, any number (except 0) would have worked.

If \lamba> 0, then you get general solution
y= C_1 cos(\sqrt{\lambda}x)+ C_2 sin(\sqrt{\lamba x})[/itex]<br /> y&amp;#039;= -C_1/sqrtr{\lambda}sin(\sqrt{\lambda}x)+ C_2\sqrt{\lamba}cos{\lamba x})<br /> The boundary conditions give<br /> y&amp;#039;(0)= C_2= 0<br /> and then <br /> y&amp;#039;(L)= -C_1\sqrt{\lamba}sin(\sqrt{\lambda}L)= 0<br /> which says that \sqrt{\lamba}L) must be a multiple of \pi and so we must have &lt;br /&gt; \sqrt{\lamba}= \frac{n\pi}{L}&lt;br /&gt; so the eigenvalues are of the form &lt;br /&gt; \frac{n^2\pi^2}{L^2}= \(\frac{n\pi}{L}\)^2&lt;br /&gt; for n an integer (that, by the way, includes 0 which you had already found). That means that the &amp;quot;eigenvectors&amp;quot; or solutions are &lt;br /&gt; C_1 cos(\frac{n\pix}{L})&lt;br /&gt; Again, any multiple of a single solution is also a solution so we might as well take C&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt;= 1.&lt;br /&gt; The way you&amp;#039;ve written it, you have \lamba_0= 0, y_0(x)= 1 separate but you could as easily take &lt;br /&gt; \lamba_n= \(\frac{n\pi}{L}\)^2 y_n(x)= cos(\frac{n\pix}{L})&lt;br /&gt; with n= 0, 1, 2,... (since cosine is an even function, we don&amp;#039;t get anything new taking negative values for n). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I think your basic question in both problems is why, after having gotten a non-trivial solution, involving an undetermined constant C&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt;, do they then drop the constant. The answer is that the set of all vectors satisfying the equation Ay= \lamba y is a subspace of the set of all vectors and so there exists a basis for it. In particular, in these problems the &amp;quot;eigenspaces&amp;quot; are 1 dimensiona. Since we want a solution y&lt;sub&gt;n&lt;/sub&gt; such that any solution can be written y= Cy&lt;sub&gt;n&lt;/sub&gt; for some number C, and we already have y= C&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt;f(x) we might as well take C&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt;= 1 and use that. In fact, we could have as easily let C&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt; be any non-zero number.
 
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That explained it perfectly! Thanks sooo much for taking the time help me out with that...and sorry about the .jpg
 
I also face a big difficulty in this question! Could anyone help me though, please?
 

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