Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around calculating the changes in enthalpy (∆H) and internal energy (∆E) for the reaction of methanol (CH3OH) at 298K, as well as determining the enthalpy change at a higher temperature of 500°C. Participants explore theoretical approaches and equations relevant to thermodynamics, including Hess's law and the relationship between ∆H and ∆E.
Discussion Character
- Homework-related
- Mathematical reasoning
- Technical explanation
Main Points Raised
- One participant calculates ∆H298 using the enthalpy of formation values but expresses uncertainty about calculating ∆E, suggesting the possibility of energy conservation implying ΔE is zero.
- Another participant emphasizes the need to subtract Δ(PV) to find ΔE and questions the molar volume of methanol, suggesting the use of the ideal gas law for methane and oxygen.
- Clarification is sought regarding whether part (c) refers to ΔG or ΔH, with a later confirmation that it was meant to be ΔH.
- One participant suggests using molar heat capacities and Hess's law to determine ΔH at 500K, indicating that ΔH is a state function.
- Another participant proposes a formula for ΔH at 500K, incorporating molar heat capacities and the quantity of substance, while also noting the need to adjust temperatures for the reactants and products.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree on the application of Hess's law and the state function nature of enthalpy. However, there is uncertainty regarding the calculation of ΔE and the specifics of the approach for part (c), indicating that multiple views and methods are being considered.
Contextual Notes
There is a lack of consensus on the exact values needed for calculations, such as molar volumes and heat capacities, which may affect the results. Additionally, the discussion does not resolve the uncertainty surrounding the calculation of ΔE.