Calculate combined apparent magnitude of two stars

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The discussion revolves around calculating the combined apparent magnitude of a binary star system with individual apparent magnitudes of 3.0 and 4.0. Participants are exploring the concept of combined magnitude and the necessary calculations involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the meaning of "combined magnitude" and whether it involves adding the individual magnitudes. There is a suggestion to convert magnitudes to intensities to facilitate the addition of the two stars' brightness. Some participants are discussing the use of a reference magnitude for calculations.

Discussion Status

Guidance has been offered regarding the conversion of magnitudes to intensities and the process of adding these intensities to find the combined magnitude. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the reference magnitude and the equations involved.

Contextual Notes

There are references to previous discussions on the magnitude system, and some participants express uncertainty about the equations and the setup for calculating intensities.

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Homework Statement



What is the combined apparent magnitude o a binary system consisting of two stars of apparent magnitudes 3.0 and 4.0

Homework Equations



m-n=2.5 log(f(m)/f(n))

The Attempt at a Solution



I know m= 3 and n=4 ,or vice versa. I'm not sure what this problem means by combined magnitude. Do they mean I should add m and n together?
 
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Benzoate said:

Homework Statement



What is the combined apparent magnitude o a binary system consisting of two stars of apparent magnitudes 3.0 and 4.0

Homework Equations



m-n=2.5 log(f(m)/f(n))

The Attempt at a Solution



I know m= 3 and n=4 ,or vice versa. I'm not sure what this problem means by combined magnitude. Do they mean I should add m and n together?

Refer to your other post on the magnitude of a variable star for the discussion on the magnitude system.

What you want to do is convert your magnitudes to intensities, since the intensities of the two stars can be added to give the total intensity (or brightness or power) of the pair. This leaves the question of what to use for a basis. You can pick any reference magnitude, say, zero, and compute the intensity of each star relative to the intensity of a zero-magnitude star. You would then add the intensities of each star and now compare the total intensity to that of the zero-mag star to find the magnitude of the pair.
 
dynamicsolo said:
Refer to your other post on the magnitude of a variable star for the discussion on the magnitude system.

What you want to do is convert your magnitudes to intensities, since the intensities of the two stars can be added to give the total intensity (or brightness or power) of the pair. This leaves the question of what to use for a basis. You can pick any reference magnitude, say, zero, and compute the intensity of each star relative to the intensity of a zero-magnitude star. You would then add the intensities of each star and now compare the total intensity to that of the zero-mag star to find the magnitude of the pair.

Is the equation for intensity, f(n)/f(m)=100^(m-n)/5. for example , can I tlet my reference magnitude be 0 and magnitude of m(1) is 3 and for the second intensity, reference magnitude n is still zero and magnitude of m(2) is 4. Once i calculated the each of the intensities for the two stars , I proceed to add the two intensities of both stars?
 
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Benzoate said:
Is the equation for intensity, f(n)/f(m)=100^(m-n)/5

I think your book or instructor is still using f from flux, but yes, that will work. (I just corrected a missing minus sign in my post in the other thread.)
 
Benzoate said:
can I tlet my reference magnitude be 0 and magnitude of m(1) is 3 and for the second intensity, reference magnitude n is still zero and magnitude of m(2) is 4. Once i calculated the each of the intensities for the two stars , I proceed to add the two intensities of both stars?

Somehow I got only the first line of this post when I went to reply to it... (?)

Yes, that is what I'm describing. You should get intensities which are between zero and 1, since they are the intensities relative to a brighter star...
 

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