Calculate F given m, d, and v should be easy.

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To calculate the average force exerted by a shot putter on a 7.0-kg shot moved through 2.8m and released at 13m/s, the average force can be derived using the work-energy theorem. The initial calculations yield an instantaneous force of 413.6 N, which contradicts the book's answer of 210 N. The discrepancy arises because the average force should account for the work done over the distance, leading to the formula F = (0.5 * m * v^2) / s. This approach considers the kinetic energy and the distance traveled, providing a more accurate representation of the average force applied. Understanding the distinction between instantaneous and average force is crucial for solving this problem correctly.
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Homework Statement


What is the average force exerted by a shot putter on a 7.0-kg shot if the shot is moved through a distance of 2.8m and is released with a speed of 13m/s?



Homework Equations


F = m * a
a = Δv/t
v = Δd/t


The Attempt at a Solution



This is a problem that should be easy, I think. I get one answer, but the answer in the back of the book for this particular problem is way different.

t = d/v = 2.8m/13m/s = 0.22 seconds

a = v/t = 13m/s / 0.22s = 59.09 m/s/s

F = ma = 7kg * 59.09 m/s/s = 413.6 N...right?

My calculation of 413.6N doesn't agree with the book's 210N in the answer key...
 
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You have to use average velocity not final velocity.
Or just constant acceleration(average force) with final velocity, 13m/s
 
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Are you familiar with work and kinetic energy? If so, setting the kinetic energy mv^2/2 equal to the work done by the force Fd would be an appropriate method.
 
That makes sense... so my answer given above would be the instantaneous force right at the release rather than the average throughout the whole thing?
 
I guess it's not.
What we are given the distance travel from 0 to final velocity.
If we apply constant force(acceleration), we will find the time taken to cover that distance.
The actual force applied is not linear.

Average velocity x time=distance
 
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final kin energy is E=0.5m*v^2, where m=7kg, v=13m/s;
work done on the shot is E=F*s, where s=2.8m, F is force by putter;
energy conserves; E=E; 0.5m*v^2= F*s, hence
F=0.5m*v^2 / s =
 
TrpnBils said:

Homework Statement


What is the average force exerted by a shot putter on a 7.0-kg shot if the shot is moved through a distance of 2.8m and is released with a speed of 13m/s?

Homework Equations


F = m * a
a = Δv/t
v = Δd/t

The Attempt at a Solution



This is a problem that should be easy, I think. I get one answer, but the answer in the back of the book for this particular problem is way different.

t = d/v = 2.8m/13m/s = 0.22 seconds

a = v/t = 13m/s / 0.22s = 59.09 m/s/s

F = ma = 7kg * 59.09 m/s/s = 413.6 N...right?

My calculation of 413.6N doesn't agree with the book's 210N in the answer key...

Mathematically, the average force is given by:

\bar{F} = \frac{1}{s}\int_0^s Fdx

The definite integral is work done on the object, which is equal to the final kinetic energy, which is why you end up with:

\bar{F} = (\frac{1}{s})(\frac{1}{2}mv^2).
 
Simplest way to solve this problem,

Use work energy theorem,

fcosθd=(0.5)mv^2 (cosθ= 1 assuming all force is in the same direction as the displacement)

Rearrange algebraicly and you'll get the answer.

Hope this helps!
 
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Simplest way to solve this problem,

Use work energy theorem,

fcosθd=(0.5)mv^2 (cosθ= 1 assuming all force is in the same direction as the displacement)

Rearrange algebraicly and you'll get the answer.

Hope this helps!

I thought the same!
 
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